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Megan
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Posted - 04/29/2002 :  17:47:57  Show Profile Send Megan a Private Message
What happens to light when you are standing on the moon? Like, if Lisa and I were on the moon and we both had flashlights, and we shined them at each other, what would happen? Would we be able to see the light like we do here on Earth? Or, because of no air, would the light just scatter? And if so, then what would it look like?

~Megan~

BTW, I'm a 15 year old that never stops asking questions(=P).

filthy
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Posted - 04/29/2002 :  18:20:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
This is a little out of my field of expertise (this is WAY out of my field of expertise!), but light, being photons, wound travel at it's normal speed in the direction the reflector in the flashlight pointed it. In short, yes, you would see each other's light, probably better than on earth. Fewer (none?) dust particals to defuse it.

luck,

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Donnie B.
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Posted - 04/29/2002 :  18:45:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Donnie B. a Private Message
Actually, the Earth's atmosphere has surprisingly little effect on visible light. A small percentage of the incoming sunlight is scattered by nitrogen molecules (which makes the sky look blue). Dust and clouds can block and/or scatter light, too. But on a clear day with little wind, you can see for fifty miles or more (from a high enough spot). And at night, you can see things hundreds of light-years away.

Just as filthy says, your flashlight experiment would work fine on the Moon, and it would look very much the way it would in a clean, dust-free environment on Earth.

If it was night, or you were in a shadow (of a crater wall, say), you would see the bright spot of light at the reflector of your friend's flashlight, and an illuminated area on the ground (or wherever you were aiming your lights). What you would *not* see would be a "beam" from the flashlight, since there is no atmosphere to keep dust particles suspended in the air. So, you'd see the light sources, and whatever they were lighting up, but no little "sparklies" in the beams -- unless you kicked up some dust, but that would fall back to the surface promptly.

Another answer to your question is, go look at any of the Apollo photographs. After all, what is a picture? It's a record of the light that entered the camera's lens. Whether the source is sunlight or a flashlight is only a matter of degree.


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Stygma
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Posted - 04/29/2002 :  19:09:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Stygma a Private Message
On the topic of the moons' atmospheric effects, how hot can its surface become when staring the sun in the face?

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Donnie B.
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Posted - 04/29/2002 :  21:28:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Donnie B. a Private Message
quote:

On the topic of the moons' atmospheric effects, how hot can its surface become when staring the sun in the face?

The number I've seen most often is around 250 C, in full noontime exposure. Of course, that's the surface temperature, not the "air" temperature; the latter is meaningless since there's no air to speak of.


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Wiley
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Posted - 04/30/2002 :  16:52:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Wiley a Private Message
Ostensively, this is in my field of expertise, so I felt I should comment.

Donnie B. is right on the money. Air does not scatter visible light very much, so it's hard to notice any scattering from a weak source like a flashlight. A flashlight beam appears scattered, but this is not caused by scattering from the air. The flashlight bulb is omnidirectional and the reflectors behind the bulb give it a crude beam shape. The effect looks like scattering; well, it is scattering from the reflectors not the air.

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Megan
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Posted - 05/01/2002 :  10:49:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Megan a Private Message
Omnidirectional?? What does that mean?

But anyway, thanks, that makes sense.

~Megan~

BTW, I'm a 15 year old that never stops asking questions(=P).
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Lisa
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Posted - 05/01/2002 :  11:56:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
Omnidirectional - all directions.
Sometime when we have nothing better to do, I'll tell you about the difference between directional and omnidirectional radio antenna. Pretty technical and boring, so have a back-up subject ready.
Lisa

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Physiofly
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Posted - 05/01/2002 :  18:05:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Physiofly a Private Message
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Omnidirectional - all directions.
Sometime when we have nothing better to do, I'll tell you about the difference between directional and omnidirectional radio antenna. Pretty technical and boring, so have a back-up subject ready.


Sounds fascinating.

How about a discussion on the differences between omnipotence and impotence?

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James
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Posted - 05/02/2002 :  05:26:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send James a Yahoo! Message Send James a Private Message
quote:

quote:
Omnidirectional - all directions.
Sometime when we have nothing better to do, I'll tell you about the difference between directional and omnidirectional radio antenna. Pretty technical and boring, so have a back-up subject ready.


Sounds fascinating.

How about a discussion on the differences between omnipotence and impotence?


Ow.

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Megan
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Posted - 05/03/2002 :  19:26:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Megan a Private Message
Oh I get it. Actually, Lisa, it sounds like fun....

~Megan~

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Wiley
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Posted - 05/06/2002 :  16:46:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Wiley a Private Message
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Omnidirectional - all directions.
Sometime when we have nothing better to do, I'll tell you about the difference between directional and omnidirectional radio antenna. Pretty technical and boring, so have a back-up subject ready.
Lisa




Yeah! This is good stuff. This is what I do for a living.

[faux insulted]Boring, indeed![/faux insulted]

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Lisa
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Posted - 05/06/2002 :  23:05:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
quote:

quote:

Omnidirectional - all directions.
Sometime when we have nothing better to do, I'll tell you about the difference between directional and omnidirectional radio antenna. Pretty technical and boring, so have a back-up subject ready.
Lisa




Yeah! This is good stuff. This is what I do for a living.

[faux insulted]Boring, indeed![/faux insulted]


Somewhat interesting in theory, very hazardous in practice. My dream: put up an antenna in nice clear sunny weather with other trained technicians.
reality: cold, rain, mud, and I know those operators are gonna drop that sucker on my head.
Lisa

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Trish
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Posted - 05/07/2002 :  12:02:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message
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Somewhat interesting in theory, very hazardous in practice. My dream: put up an antenna in nice clear sunny weather with other trained technicians.
reality: cold, rain, mud, and I know those operators are gonna drop that sucker on my head.
Lisa


A friend of mine, medically outed from the Army, very nearly had this thing happen to her. The antenna hit her shoulder tearing the muscles and rotator cuff. Wasn't pleasant for her. And she had 18 years in.

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