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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 05/10/2002 : 15:18:58
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Someone please look at the links. Is this something that's totally made up or something that's misinterpreted?
http://www.mercola.com/2002/may/8/distilled_water.htm
"Not one human life should be expended in this reckless violence called a war against terrorism." - Howard Zinn
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jmcginn
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 05/10/2002 : 15:55:12 [Permalink]
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Someone please look at the links. Is this something that's totally made up or something that's misinterpreted?
http://www.mercola.com/2002/may/8/distilled_water.htm
"Not one human life should be expended in this reckless violence called a war against terrorism." - Howard Zinn
Well I found the following:
Researcher Says HIV Does Not Cause AIDS
Controversial and Outspoken Newsletter Reaches Milestone
Response: Optimal Wellness Ctr.
Medical Frauds at ratbags.com
It looks like Dr. Mercola is a fraud/quack taking advantage of the health industry as many do.
A couple of observations seem to confirm this.
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He quickly realized that the crystals that formed from water depended highly on the natural health of the water
What exactly is the natural health of the water. :)
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Water that had been distilled, polluted or passed through consumption had lost its inner order
What in the world is the "inner order" of water.
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One of the major foundational reasons is that distilled water is highly acidic. Most of us are far too acidic already and the last thing we need to be drinking is a fluid that will make us even more acidic.
This one just makes me laugh.
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Since distilled water is like a vacuum without any minerals, it will actually leach beneficial minerals from your body to balance it out
Anyone who knows some of the basics of digestive biochemistry knows this is balogne.
This really sounds like one of those new age kind of sites describing the medical beneficts of certain herbs or crystals.
The other point that jumps out at me is that he has supposidly researched so many different medical topics that the guy would have to be several hundred years old to have done it all and done it right.
I label Dr. Mercola -> Quack.
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5311 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2002 : 16:28:26 [Permalink]
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Yeah, no doubt he's a quack. What I'm wondering, for instance, is what we're looking at when we look at these pictures.
http://www.godsdirectcontact.org/eng/news/131/ss2.htm
I know that prayer didn't change them, but did they just put up pictures of polluted water and clean water, or what are we looking at, can you tell?
"Not one human life should be expended in this reckless violence called a war against terrorism." - Howard Zinn |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Lars_H
SFN Regular
Germany
630 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2002 : 19:09:23 [Permalink]
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There ain't much information on those sites, so we can only guess at what would explain those results.
In my eyes most probable explantions would be:
a) It is completly made up or they cheated somehow.
b) They just looked at prayed and unprayed water and choose from the chrystals in each sample those that would be best suited to illustrate their theory. There might be plenty of malformed and beatiful christals in each sample.
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gezzam
SFN Regular
Australia
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Posted - 05/10/2002 : 19:54:17 [Permalink]
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The crystalline structure produced in water by heavy metal music.
Shit, better throw away all those ols Metallica records and buy up big on Charlotte Church.....if it happens to water, it's got to make my beer better for me.
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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Posted - 05/10/2002 : 22:50:03 [Permalink]
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That's not the only prayer bs that's totally off, here's some quotes from some other sites:
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A six-month study conducted by the prestigious Mayo Clinic has found that prayer had no effect on rates of death, heart attacks, strokes and hospitalizations.
The study was directed by cardiologist Dr. Stephen L. Kopecky, and was conducted between July, 1997 and October, 1999. Results were released in the current issue of the Mayo Clinic Proceedings. A statement from the Clinic said that researchers "found that... intercessory prayer had no significant effect on patients' medical outcomes after hospitalization in a coronary care unit."
Here's a problem for prayer:
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For those who argue that intercessory prayer and other spiritual practices benefit health due to the intervention of supernatural beings, the Mayo Clinic study offers little sanctuary. "Researchers could discern no scientifically significant differences" between groups of patients who received prayer, and those who did not. Fully 25.6% in the prayer group even suffered "negative outcomes" such as death, heart attack, rehospitalization or a trip to the emergency room. More bedeviling, of course, are the deeper philosophical and theological questions the Mayo study, and even surveys suggesting a link between health and spirituality don't answer. Why would God or angels wait until someone is on his/her deathbed, or in a serious medical crisis, before intervening? Why might prayer be said to work for some, and not others?
Here's what I find amusing; the ever-powerful "wanting to believe" process of religion: quote:
Equally puzzling is the comment of Rev. John Hatgidikas, "who teaches University of Minnesota medical students about spirituality" according to the AP story reporting the Mayo Clinic findings. He said that people who are unaware that they are being prayed for by others "may benefit in ways that we can't know or see."
That's probably why religion and other supernaturalistic beliefs are so hard to fight; they appeal to "what we WANT to believe".
The above was taken from: http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/prayer24.htm
For those who want their news uncontaminated by "evil" atheism (oooooooh!). Here's another site: http://www.iht.com/articles/57192.html that analyzes the efficacy of "prayer therapy".
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