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gezzam
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Australia
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 Posted - 06/25/2002 : 13:52:50
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Tim
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USA
775 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2002 : 05:35:36 [Permalink]
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Wow, I wonder why conservative Christians are so afraid of gay people. Do they think that gay people can turn good god fearin' children gay, if they are really straight? It sort of seems like internalized homophobia. Plus, do you think they will ever let queer America in on the real gay rights agenda?
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But truth is stranger than fiction, notes the author: "Research confirms that homosexuals molest children at a rate vastly higher than heterosexuals, and the mainstream homosexual culture commonly promotes sex with children. Homosexual leaders repeatedly argue for the freedom to engage in consensual sex with children, and blind surveys reveal a shockingly high number of homosexuals admit to sexual contact with minors. Indeed, the homosexual community is driving the worldwide campaign to lower the legal age of consent."
Do y'all think they could let us in on their references?
"The Constitution ..., is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society." P. Robertson |
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Bradley
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 07/06/2002 : 22:41:13 [Permalink]
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It's rather ironic that the members of a bizzarre (spelling?) religious cult whose central figure is a thirty-something male celibate should be critical of other people's sexuality.
"Too much doubt is better than too much credulity."
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Lars_H
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Germany
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Posted - 07/07/2002 : 00:12:11 [Permalink]
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It's rather ironic that the members of a bizzarre (spelling?) religious cult whose central figure is a thirty-something male celibate should be critical of other people's sexuality.
"Too much doubt is better than too much credulity."
-Robert Green Ingersoll (1833 - 1899)
A celibate? I think it is more a case of undetermined sexual orientation that believers can project their own desires onto. The celibate part is just something that got focused apon by the catholic church in their desire to make sexuality look something evil.
The good think about the Bible is that you can read almost anything you want into it. You sometimes have to cheat, as gays have to when using secret Mark to show that Jesus was gay, but generally anything goes.
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Bradley
Skeptic Friend
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2002 : 00:47:26 [Permalink]
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A celibate?
Yes, apparently jesus never had a lover. This accounts for his squirrelly pronouncements on human sexuality. Think of it! Every xian's ideal man didn't know what life is all about and prissily condemned the one pleasure beside which all others combined look rather paltry.
"Too much doubt is better than too much credulity."
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Hobbes
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USA
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Posted - 07/09/2002 : 03:16:03 [Permalink]
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I think Jesus was a classic example of the sexual-repression fanatic prevalent in George Orwell's 1984. Orwell pointed out that the only way to generate the energy needed for 24/7 war-hysteria (or in this case, fanatical religious belief) was to bottle up the sex-drive, and use it as a driving force.
And Newton said, "y'= lim h->0 of [f(x+h)-f(x)]/[(x+h)-x], thus, Calculus was born, and Newton saw that it was good. |
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James
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USA
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Posted - 07/09/2002 : 05:43:29 [Permalink]
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I think Jesus was a classic example of the sexual-repression fanatic prevalent in George Orwell's 1984. Orwell pointed out that the only way to generate the energy needed for 24/7 war-hysteria (or in this case, fanatical religious belief) was to bottle up the sex-drive, and use it as a driving force.
That would certainly explain a lot....
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Slater
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USA
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Posted - 07/09/2002 : 09:05:55 [Permalink]
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Could have been worse. There was, after all, the god Attis who was also a big deal starting in 204BCE. They had their temple set up on the Palatine. Attis was the savior, ever-dying, ever-resurrected, who was born of the virgin Cybele.
During their high feast day (March 22) called the Festival of Joy (Hilaria) adherents would become so worked up with religious fervor that they would castrate themselves, run naked through the streets of Rome, threw their testes into one of the houses they passed. The household so honored had to furnish "him" with a suit of women's clothes and accessories, which "he" wore for the rest of "his" life.
One might wonder if looking around your house to find if the bloody pieces had rolled under a couch later became Easter egg hunts.
On March 24 (The Day of Blood) novices would sacrifice their virility. They would fling their severed portions against the statue of Cybele. Afterwards the bits and pieces would be reverently wrapt up and kept in subterranean chambers to insure that Attis would return to life.
You can read all about this original Easter Parade in James George Frazer's The Golden Bough--but not on an empty stomach.
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Bradley
Skeptic Friend
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2002 : 13:35:10 [Permalink]
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I think Jesus was a classic example of the sexual-repression fanatic prevalent in George Orwell's 1984. Orwell pointed out that the only way to generate the energy needed for 24/7 war-hysteria (or in this case, fanatical religious belief) was to bottle up the sex-drive, and use it as a driving force.
And Newton said, "y'= lim h->0 of [f(x+h)-f(x)]/[(x+h)-x], thus, Calculus was born, and Newton saw that it was good.
Good analogy. Religionists, xians especially, always oppose anything that makes people happy, as they claim that only religion (cloaked in whatever euphemism, e. g. "spirituality," "getting closer to god," "having a relationship with jesus," "what I believe," etc.) brings happiness, a claim on which religion is pisspoor short on delivery. Needless to say, the churches simply must frown upon miniskirts, marijuana, and rock 'n' roll.
"Too much doubt is better than too much credulity."
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Satan
New Member
USA
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Posted - 07/18/2002 : 15:43:40 [Permalink]
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Not only that, but I'm sure the most critical of all homosexuals fear that either they themselves are or will be homosexual, or that a homosexual will randomly select them to be their partner and pursue this. The most adamant homophobes whom I have met have never actually gotten to know a single homosexual, and many have never knowingly seen one in person.
Then again, this is probably the conservative community trying to create yet another scapegoat. After all, Satan is millenia old, and people have kind of gotten used to the idea of me being around. I don't strike the same fear into the heart of the average, "lukewarm" Christian. Rock 'n Roll is likewise obsolete, since our own George W. is now tight with Ozzy (who knows - maybe a few presidents from now Marilyn Manson will be in the White House chilling with the Prez and his Peeps?). There are few groups that truly terrify people anymore: "terrorists" (whether actually terrorists or just foreign-looking), humanists (agh!!!), and, of course, homosexuals. The last is probably the greatest fear, since many people would rather die a noble death at the hands of a terrorist than be humiliated by a "gay rape," which is an honest fear of many of my friends.
If we let the Religious Right continue this tirade, pretty soon Satan will be gay!!! (I respect homosexuals, but am not one myself, nor have any desire to change my preferences!)
Satan,
a.k.a. the Talking Snake Whom Atheists, Witches, Muslims, and Puerto Ricans Worship (If You Ask Anyone In This State)
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