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lil_devil
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Canada
17 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2002 :  21:03:08  Show Profile Send lil_devil a Private Message
ok... this is a skeptic enemy page right?
i come in here with a different view and i am attacked...
is slapping newbies a common thing?

Only a small uneducated minority believes in theories involving missiles or
dynamite in the basement

LD: excuse me but uneducated ? who are you to call a
different minded population
uneducated according to your code of knowledge?
who are you to judje ?
i classify architects top rank before a contrary
opinion , my advice is do some search
on the topic and my question to you is
is this a faith website ? because you
sure make it seem this way

btw i get my info form a bunch of sites
and i conclude with what makes
sense to me my circle of friends
and some gut feeling!

here a 3 sites i picked up random

http://www.public-action.com/911/psyopnews/DOCS/plot_within_a_plot_part1.html
www.epals.com/20thcentury/93tradecenter.html+world+trade+center+bombed+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8" target="_blank">http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:1BZfuEuVO_YC:www.epals.com/20thcentury/93tradecenter.html+world+trade+center+bombed+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
http://www.louisbeam.com/fbilinked.htm

No, terrorist in Hollywood movies use missiles
and death-rays and intercontinental rockets
and stuff like that. Smart terrorists in real life
use box-cutters and (their own brand of)
common sense. That is why the terrorists in real
life are succesfull.

LD :you gotta be kidding right?,how do
you even classify this as common sense
this is terrorism without a clue
(they) dont even have a randsom demand
its pointless .dont you think a rich man like bin ladden
has acces to nukes? a wise-ass evil kill
would have been a nuke
i wouldent call it smart though.

What makes you think that he had prior knowledge?

LD:if i should beleive, thats what it said on the news.
you know... that grim doomsday everyday stuff.


That is not very logical. New York is a city
full of people with cameras. It is likely that one
of them would catch an incident
such as this on tape by pure chance.

LD: wow pure chance really?
must be divine intervention.

Where do the archtiects claim that the
building should have survived this?

Every real expert agrees on what happened.

real?.. whats makes one realer than another?
denser bones?

What makes you think that the Bin
Laden tapes are likely forgeries?

LD:because of the info i could
gather on the web and conclude from.


LD: anyways ill just drop this topic
this poking at me is uncalled for


















Slater
SFN Regular

USA
1668 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2002 :  22:29:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
That reminds me @tomic, did anyone ever hear from "He" again?

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My business is to teach my aspirations to conform themselves to fact, not to try and make facts harmonize with my aspirations. ---Thomas Henry Huxley, 1860
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@tomic
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USA
4607 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2002 :  22:47:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
I have seen He on this board within the last 6 months.

lil devil. You really need to cool it. Your participation is erratic and we cannot have people starting a new topic every time they want to post. I suggest you check to make sure your cookies are enabled because this site requires cookies to function correctly.


And this is not an "enemy" section. I would think that the titles of many of the topics might indicate what sort of forum this is.

@tomic

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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 06/26/2002 :  02:16:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Huh?

Have I missed something?

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Evolution is a bankrupt speculative philosophy, not a scientific fact. Only a spiritually bankrupt society could ever believe it.... Only atheists could accept this Satanic theory.
-- Rev. Jimmy Swaggart (source unknown)

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Lars_H
SFN Regular

Germany
630 Posts

Posted - 06/26/2002 :  04:21:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lars_H a Private Message
quote:

ok... this is a skeptic enemy page right?
i come in here with a different view and i am attacked...
is slapping newbies a common thing?


I think you misunderstand, what skepticism is about.
quote:

Only a small uneducated minority believes in theories involving missiles or
dynamite in the basement

LD: excuse me but uneducated ? who are you to call a
different minded population
uneducated according to your code of knowledge?
who are you to judje ?
i classify architects top rank before a contrary
opinion , my advice is do some search
on the topic and my question to you is
is this a faith website ? because you
sure make it seem this way



What right do I have to call those that hold a different opinon uneducated? I don't call them uneducated for holding a different opinon I call them uneducated, because every true beliver in that sort of nonsense I have met online has been acting like he was lacking education. There are no different truths out there. There is only one truth, one logic and one reality. And ignorance is not a point of view. The Architect that is menitoned in one of your sources is quoted out of context. I already tried to explain the difference between beign able to withstand an impact by a Cessna and being able to withstand the heat generated
by a plane full of kerosin burning.
quote:

btw i get my info form a bunch of sites
and i conclude with what makes
sense to me my circle of friends
and some gut feeling!

here a 3 sites i picked up random

http://www.public-action.com/911/psyopnews/DOCS/plot_within_a_plot_part1.html
www.epals.com/20thcentury/93tradecenter.html+world+trade+center+bombed+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8" target="_blank">http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:1BZfuEuVO_YC:www.epals.com/20thcentury/93tradecenter.html+world+trade+center+bombed+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
http://www.louisbeam.com/fbilinked.htm


If your friend share your educational background and common sense, it is no wonder they agree with you.

The sites you bring are not very convincing either.

There is one site by conspiracy nuts who don't have a clue or shred of evidence. They claim that a bomb went of and all they have to prove it is guesswork and an architect quotet out of context.

The other two sites as far as I can tell don't have anything to do with 9/11, but are about the failed bombing attempt a decade ago. There had been some critic of the FBI for handeling the situation, but I don't see how this could be relevant for the topic in question.
quote:

No, terrorist in Hollywood movies use missiles
and death-rays and intercontinental rockets
and stuff like that. Smart terrorists in real life
use box-cutters and (their own brand of)
common sense. That is why the terrorists in real
life are succesfull.

LD :you gotta be kidding right?,how do
you even classify this as common sense
this is terrorism without a clue
(they) dont even have a randsom demand
its pointless .dont you think a rich man like bin ladden
has acces to nukes? a wise-ass evil kill
would have been a nuke
i wouldent call it smart though.


You don't make sense those were terrorists their aim was to create terror not make money. They achieved their aim with a minimum of resources in a low risk operation.

Nukes are harder to get then Hollywood would like you to believe. I think we would notice it very fast if Bin Laden gets his hands on one. The mushroom cloud will be a dead giveaway.
quote:

What makes you think that he had prior knowledge?

LD:if i should beleive, thats what it said on the news.
you know... that grim doomsday everyday stuff.


Nobody accuses Bush of the sort of thing you think. What he is accused of in the media and your conspiracy theory are different things.

quote:


That is not very logical. New York is a city
full of people with cameras. It is likely that one
of them would catch an incident
such as this on tape by pure chance.

LD: wow pure chance really?
must be divine intervention.


Are you sure you don't mean 'divine relavation'? If you are asking how I know that the amount of accidental tapings of the event was normal; I did not do any big calculations I just compared it with similar events that were also cought on tape by accident under similar conditions. Unless you consider all of these amateur films and the events they document as part of the plot, we have to consider the amount we got as within the realm of normal.
quote:

Where do the archtiects claim that the
building should have survived this?

Every real expert agrees on what happened.

real?.. whats makes one realer than another?
denser bones?


Creditentals. Having studied archtecture. Being known to be an expert by other experts. That sort of thing. The people who now claim that the WTC could not have happened, are none of those things.
quote:

What makes you think that the Bin
Laden tapes are likely forgeries?

LD:because of the info i could
gather on the web and conclude from.


You have to be a bit more careful when surfing the net. It is said that there are some sites with factual errors out there.

What kind of methode do you employ to decide wethere the information on a site is likely true? If they agree with your idea they true and if not they are part of the plot?

quote:


LD: anyways ill just drop this topic
this poking at me is uncalled for



Poking? Ther is no definition of poking in my dictionary that would fit here. Do you mean poking fun? If yes I never intended to make fun of you, even if you gave everyone plenty of oppertunity. I also doubt that the reaction you are getting here has much to do with your topic, but is caused by your general attitude towards skepticism and the scientific methode. Your lack of knowleged about the stuff you are talking about does not help you either.

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