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The Rat
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Posted - 06/23/2001 :  18:28:25  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message
I've posted this on other boards, so now it's your turn. Here are some quotes from two of the more prominent creationists. Next time you debate the fundies you can use these to prove to them that even the leaders of the movement admit that it's not science. I have added the italics.

"Creation is not taking place now, so far as can be observed. Therefore, it was accomplished sometime in the past, if at all, and thus is inaccessible to the scientific method." Henry M. Morris, Scientific Creationism, (General edition, second edition, El Cajon, CA: Master, 1985), p. 5.

"It is impossible to devise a scientific experiment to describe the creation process, or even to ascertain whether such a process can take place. The Creator does not create at the whim of a scientist." Henry M. Morris, Scientific Creationism, (General edition, second edition, El Cajon, CA: Master, 1985), p. 5.

"The only Bible-honoring conclusion is, of course, that Genesis 1-11 is the actual historical truth, regardless of any scientific or chronologic problems thereby entailed." Henry M. Morris, Remarkable Birth, p. 82. Quoted in Kenneth R. Miller, "Scientific Creationism versus Evolution" Science And Creationism, (New York: Oxford University Press, 1984), p. 56. (italics added)

"We do not know how the Creator created, [or] what processes He used, for he used processes which are not now operating anywhere in the natural universe. This is why we refer to creation as special creation. We cannot discover by scientific investigation anything about the creative processes used by the Creator." Duane Gish, Evolution? The Fossils Say No!, (1985), p. 42.








Lars_H
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Posted - 06/23/2001 :  19:06:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lars_H a Private Message
I find it interesting, that on the one hand the Creationists claim that the creation can't be scientifically researched defies science and would still be right if science said otherwise, but on the other hand they are calling what they are doing creation science and have scientific evidence to proof creation.

Still those quotes are pretty much normal for creationists and have nothing on th likes of Hovind.

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The Rat
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Posted - 06/23/2001 :  19:49:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message
quote:

normal for creationists and have nothing on the likes of Hovind.



Oh yeah, Hovind is definitely what aircraft designers would call a 'one-off' design. He makes the others seem almost sane.

YIKES!!! WHAT AM I SAYING?!?!?!

I have GOT to spend more time outside...

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bestonnet_00
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Posted - 06/24/2001 :  01:38:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send bestonnet_00 an ICQ Message  Send bestonnet_00 a Yahoo! Message
Creationalists are just hypocrits.

And a lot of other bad things.

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