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jesusfreak4life
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 Posted - 11/14/2002 : 20:03:19
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Don't take this a any type of defeat... it's not. I've been having feelings that Satan has been trying to get to me through what you people are saying. I'm not one to call names, but you people are unquestionably stupid in the sence that you are so ignorant to the facts. Satan has already gottn to and I won't let him get near me.
I hope that at least one of you find the way in your life. Otherwise you will find that you were sadly mistaken throughout your whole life. And filthy, this isn't your uncle Jerry, but i'm telling ya, you should really listen to him.
Find help everyone, and get away from the evil.
I love you all like a Christian should,
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
1447 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2002 : 21:02:37 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by jesusfreak4life
I've been having feelings that Satan has been trying to get to me through what you people are saying... Satan has already gottn to and I won't let him get near me.
Do you really not realize how insane that sounds?
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I love you all like a Christian should,
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Kilted_Warrior
Skeptic Friend
Canada
118 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2002 : 21:07:31 [Permalink]
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Is this guy even for real? He seems about what we would expect from an adversary of skeptics, clearly without rational thinking, clear obediance to authority, and unwavering belief, and that is what saddens me, that people are still like this.
Earlier he said that he was not religious, he was a Christian. What is that supposed to mean?
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Terryt88
Skeptic Friend
USA
120 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2002 : 21:07:38 [Permalink]
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That didn't take long...
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I've been having feelings that Satan has been trying to get to me through what you people are saying.
hmmm... The truth hurts? That isn't satan friend, it's your intelligence trying to tell you that you have been duped into believing some made up BS your entire life.
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Find help everyone, and get away from the evil.
Be sure to take your own advice from time to time.
Good luck to you.
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
1447 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2002 : 21:12:42 [Permalink]
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Actually, the more I think about it, the sadder I get.
Jesusfreak makes a claim that "all of the hundreds of prophecies of the Bible have come true".
He gets numerous responses pointing out numerous "prophecies" that were unequivically wrong.
So instead of examining his beliefs (come on! That's got to pique some sort of attempt at rationality buried somewhere in your brain!), he blames some make-believe bogeyman for tempting him and leaves. |
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
1668 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2002 : 21:39:54 [Permalink]
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So instead of examining his beliefs (come on! That's got to pique some sort of attempt at rationality buried somewhere in your brain!), he blames some make-believe bogeyman for tempting him and leaves.
It's just too bad that the powers of darkness didn't have Spellcheck.
I think he actually did start to examine his beliefs. It would be a first, but I think it happened. After all he actually did know the difference between a closed system and an open one. The implications of the knowledge he already had might have started to get through to him.(After they were repeated to him a few times) But look at this last message…it's pure panic. The devil is after him; we should get away from evil--this guy is scared. The only thing that I can think of that could spook a Fundi like that would be if they started to have independent thoughts.
Pretty F-ing cool! Congratulations all around. Great job everyone!
I predict (and all of my hundreds of prophecies are always true. If you doubt that…just ask ME) that this kid's name will not be a self fulfilling prophecy.
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Terryt88
Skeptic Friend
USA
120 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2002 : 21:41:13 [Permalink]
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So instead of examining his beliefs (come on! That's got to pique some sort of attempt at rationality buried somewhere in your brain!), ...
You know that's sort of interesting you made that statement. I dated this beautiful and smart girl for probably 5 months. She was a born again, but I don't let that sort of thing keep me from being interested in someone (unless they are completely gone past hope.)
So we dated, and there came a time about 5 months into our going out that she told me she couldn't be with me anymore because I didn't believe in god/jesus/the whole works.
So the devil's advocate (no pun intended ) in me felt challenged. I wanted this girl to tell me why she felt the way she did, without resorting to bogus claims like, "That's what I was brought up to believe," or "The bible tells me so." I asked her to go out and read and learn some things for herself and if she she felt the way she did before regardless, I wouldn't pursue it.
I gave her books that I felt were not too biased either way, skeptic or religeous. Mostly science books like A Brief History of Time. I even got her to read part of Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World.
But I tell you what. I am happy to say that we are still together and my story has a happy ending. So I think this JesusFreak guy, though confused, still has hope. I hope he/she comes back and gives skepticism a fair shake and tries to learn both sides of any story.
That's what I enjoy about skepticism, the deep rooted desire for knowledge, and you know, the occasional pissing in a creationist's cheeri-o's.
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
1668 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2002 : 21:52:18 [Permalink]
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Earlier he said that he was not religious, he was a Christian. What is that supposed to mean?
Oh haven't you heard that one before. A couple of minor Protestant sects here in the States (gee Canada sounds like a nice place) use it all the time. Their line is Christianity isn't a religion it's a relationship with god (which must be something like my "relationship" with Gwyneth Paltrow) Then in the next breath they will claim that Atheism, evolution and just about anything they dislike is a religion. I don't know what they are trying to prove, and I doubt if they do either.
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LordofEntropy
Skeptic Friend
USA
85 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2002 : 23:41:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by jesusfreak4life
Don't take this a any type of defeat... it's not. I've been having feelings that Logic has been trying to get to me through what you people are saying. I'm not one to call names, but you people are unquestionably stupid in the sence that you are so ignorant to the claims. Logic has already gottn to and I won't let him get near me.
I hope that at least one of you find the way in your life. Otherwise you will find that you were sadly mistaken throughout your whole life. And filthy, this isn't your uncle Jerry, but i'm telling ya, you should really listen to him.
Find religion everyone, and get away from the Science.
I love you all like a Christian should
It all has become clear.
Satan == Logic
Facts == Claims
Science == Evil
Religion == Help
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I love you all like a Christian should,
Notice he says like a Christian SHOULD. Not because it is just a good thing to do, not out of just wanting to, but because he has been told he SHOULD. |
Entropy just isn't what it used to be.
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
1447 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2002 : 06:24:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Terryt88
I even got her to read part of Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World.
Part?! She must go back and finish it all! At least twice!
Everyone should...
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Mespo_man
Skeptic Friend
USA
312 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2002 : 06:44:24 [Permalink]
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"Don't take this a any type of defeat... it's not. I've been having feelings that Satan has been trying to get to me through what you people are saying."
JF was defeated by Satan after only 7 posts? How sad. Spooked by the dark side of Casper.
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Terryt88
Skeptic Friend
USA
120 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2002 : 08:07:32 [Permalink]
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Part?! She must go back and finish it all! At least twice!
Everyone should...
You know what was really cool about that particular book? Boron10 originally bought it from Hastings ([side note] I dunno about nationwide, but the Hastings here has a christian section about 20 times as big as the science section.) He finished it, gave it to me. I fininshed it, gave it to her. I got it back, went to Japan on business and ended up passing it on to a friend I met there. Since then, that guy gave it to someone else.
It's an interesting little journey that book has had.  |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2002 : 08:49:27 [Permalink]
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And filthy, this isn't your uncle Jerry, but i'm telling ya, you should really listen to him.
Find help everyone, and get away from the evil.
I love you all like a Christian should,
JF my friend, you will find no Satan and only a modest amount of evil here. None of us are possesed by any sort of spirtual demon, evil or otherwise. How can one be possesed by something that there is no evidence of it's existance and therefore, not worthy of belief?
I hope your absence will be a brief one. I look forward to some interesting discussions. One cannot discuss worth a damn without an opposing view.
All luck,
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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jmcginn
Skeptic Friend
343 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2002 : 13:01:53 [Permalink]
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I love you all like a Christian should,
preceded by
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I'm not one to call names, but you people are unquestionably stupid in the sence that you are so ignorant to the facts.
You got to love the hypocrisy. Combine this along with the misrepresentation of facts from his other thread (i.e. lying) and you wonder how some of his come to our opinions of the typical fundamentalists/jesus freak. Hmm where are those admirable traits that are supposed to convince us that Xianity is the one true way? Let's see we have name calling, lying, inability to reason, inability to see one's own faults, and the list goes on.
Yep another reason why not to be a Christian, (along with the fact that there is no evidence to support its outrageous stories), thanks JesusFreak. |
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jmcginn
Skeptic Friend
343 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2002 : 13:05:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by jmcginn
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I love you all like a Christian should,
preceded by
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I'm not one to call names, but you people are unquestionably stupid in the sence that you are so ignorant to the facts.
You got to love the hypocrisy. Combine this along with the misrepresentation of facts from his other thread (i.e. lying) and you wonder how some of his come to our opinions of the typical fundamentalists/jesus freak. Hmm where are those admirable traits that are supposed to convince us that Xianity is the one true way? Let's see we have name calling, lying, inability to reason, inability to see one's own faults, and the list goes on.
Yep another reason why not to be a Christian, (along with the fact that there is no evidence to support its outrageous stories), thanks JesusFreak.
P.S. I will have to add that JesusFreak really did do us one favor, he did liven up the boards quite a bit. Its been a while since I last seen the boards this active :> |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2002 : 13:19:18 [Permalink]
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P.S. I will have to add that JesusFreak really did do us one favor, he did liven up the boards quite a bit. Its been a while since I last seen the boards this active :>
They come, they go. I don't know what the reason is, but few seem to have much staying power. And worse yet, fewer still will accept another's argument however well it might be supported and presented.
I was really hoping to get it on with transitional fossils. Ah well.
(If demon possesed I must be, let it be the Drusilla the Succubus.)
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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