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Legallee Insane
Skeptic Friend
Canada
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 Posted - 11/27/2002 : 23:21:24
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I suppose by now almost everyone has seen one of those Fox specials about how man has never been to the moon. I'm just wondering what peoples opinions on that are.
Personally I think it sounds very tabloidesque, what possible advantage would the U.S. gain from faking a trip to the moon? And furthermore, what possible advantage could be had from making people believe that we haven't been to the moon?
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riptor
Skeptic Friend
Germany
70 Posts |
 Posted - 11/28/2002 : 02:47:11 [Permalink]
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That 33 years ago it would result in great propaganda.
Anyways, the theory I like best: The U.S.-astronauts were on moon, but picture quality was that terribly bad that they made a fake in a studio in Hollywood (or somewhere else). |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/28/2002 : 03:33:33 [Permalink]
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It is, of course, a pile fo crap. But then, much of what Fox puts forth falls into this catagory, it seems. They also have done a whole, big bunch of hogwash on Noah's ridiculous flotation device.
It might be fun to watch though, as long as it's regarded as entertainment, not a documentary (actually, it is a documentary. It's aimed at the gullible, in their millions ).
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Kilted_Warrior
Skeptic Friend
Canada
118 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2002 : 11:16:06 [Permalink]
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They aired it here the second time this weekend, and I saw it for the first time then.
When I was watching it my time was split between laughing out lound and shaking my fist at those idiots!
Well I shouldn't call them idiots, the "drastically misinformed ignoramus'" would be a better term.
Believe me Kevin, we did go to the moon. Go to
www.badastronomy.com
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ljbrs
SFN Regular
USA
842 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2002 : 19:47:53 [Permalink]
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Then again, I have never visited the FOX network. I do not have cable and watch one-half hour of news (if at all) on network channels. I hate to spend real money (down the drain) for something that I would never find the time (nor the interest) to use. I am simply an old-fashioned nerd (nerdess?) who does not care for public taste. I shall do my own stupid taste, thank you!
Whee!
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a65phalcon
New Member
USA
44 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2002 : 00:20:53 [Permalink]
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| I'm a fan of JFK being shot because he was going to release info to the public proving the whereabouts of the remains from Roswell. Damn you CIA.......dammmmnnnnn you!!!!!!! |
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Boron10
Religion Moderator
USA
1266 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2002 : 03:10:08 [Permalink]
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| Wow, phalcon, that's one I haven't heard before! |
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ktesibios
SFN Regular
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2002 : 20:09:57 [Permalink]
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Well, if you really wanna know-
The whole thing was in fact a hoax. However, due to technical difficulties with the set, the films and pictures had to be made on location on the moon. 
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Kilted_Warrior
Skeptic Friend
Canada
118 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2002 : 21:31:05 [Permalink]
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You mean that JFK was a good guy?
I thought he was the one behind all of this, and the fighters for freedom had to have him assasinated so he wouldn't sell the US to the aliens.
actually, I didn't think that, it just sounded cool... |
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Lisa
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2002 : 02:40:16 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by ktesibios
Well, if you really wanna know-
The whole thing was in fact a hoax. However, due to technical difficulties with the set, the films and pictures had to be made on location on the moon.
I can use that? I don't know if it's the lessened about of sunlight we get here this time of year or what, but I've been running into a lot of real nutballs lately.
Now I don't mind pointing out a few facts to someone's who's merely confused by certain *cough* media "documentaries".
But then you run into the others. If you try to explain inertia, you're labled as a NASA/govt/CIA/FBI/Whatever stooge.
My personal favorite: "you're using big words like parallax to confuse me!" |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2002 : 08:33:14 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by ljbrs
Then again, I have never visited the FOX network. I do not have cable and watch one-half hour of news (if at all) on network channels. I hate to spend real money (down the drain) for something that I would never find the time (nor the interest) to use. I am simply an old-fashioned nerd (nerdess?) who does not care for public taste. I shall do my own stupid taste, thank you!
Whee!
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Infamous
Skeptic Friend
85 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2002 : 10:26:29 [Permalink]
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You know, we actually have photos, taken on Earth through telescopes, of the Apollo lunar module.
If we didn't land on the moon...how did that get there? |
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PhDreamer
SFN Regular
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2002 : 11:11:54 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Infamous
You know, we actually have photos, taken on Earth through telescopes, of the Apollo lunar module.
I'm sure Phil knows for sure, but I believe this is an urban myth. I found this on a "Lunar Trivia" site: The Hubble Space Telescope can resolve features on the lunar surface down to 85 metres (280 feet) across although that seems like an awfully poor resolution.
Hey Phil, you lurking?
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Kilted_Warrior
Skeptic Friend
Canada
118 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2002 : 11:21:52 [Permalink]
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I just read that soon the VLT will be targeted towards the landing sites and will finally prove that we were there.
I'm sure the theorists will just say that NASA pasted cutouts of the lander onto the front of the telescope. |
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Infamous
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 12/10/2002 : 11:30:41 [Permalink]
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| PhDreamer, yes, until only recently, that was only a myth. I've seen a photo in Sky & Telescope magazine showing what they said was the lunar module. It just looked like a small black dot, but apparently they know that was it. |
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Infamous
Skeptic Friend
85 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2002 : 08:32:16 [Permalink]
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Oops, I was wrong, it still is an urban myth.
The photo I saw was taken from orbit by Apollo 17. Still pretty good evidence if you ask me. |
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