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Terryt88
Skeptic Friend
USA
120 Posts |
 Posted - 12/02/2002 : 15:25:09 [Permalink]
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You guys seem to let out a huge sigh of disgust because another damn Christian posted something stupid.
It was actually more of a sigh of laughter.
The very least you could do is try and have an open and analytical mind or approach.
This was actually my basis for posting the link. Peer review is considered by many to be an excellent means for finding the validity of a claim.
Otherwise you are exactly what you hate, you become those hard-nosed ignorant Christians.
I won't become one of them until I stop having an open and analytical mind.
ah ha,
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Boron10
Religion Moderator
USA
1266 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2002 : 16:20:02 [Permalink]
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I won't become one of them until I stop having an open and analytical mind.
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De_Bunk
New Member
USA
15 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2002 : 20:24:52 [Permalink]
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Anyone that uses that much Latin...is usually a total kook who happens to have a Thesaurus nearby and has just read through it...finding all the latin phrases he can find..
They think it gives them a certain credence...
Like we are all gonna instantly believe him...
Ive seen it happen time and time before...
There is no reason to use those phrases...its just showboating...and a poor show at that...
Me and Latin...
Oh dear...
You lot aint seen nothing yet... |
De_Bunk..."Scourge of the Believer....(Ex-JREF Kid) |
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Antie
Skeptic Friend
USA
101 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2002 : 05:20:54 [Permalink]
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> This man believes that it becomes the responsibility of the Skeptic
> to provide evidence in the burden of proof fallacy.
Atheists haven't been given a good reason to believe any of the god claims out there. Why should we provide any more evidence?
> And please correct me if I am wrong, it sounds like he uses the fact
> that since millions of people are theist, that theism in general is
> justified.
And that is the appealing to numbers fallacy.
> But seriously, when an individual posts to the board with anything
> tangible about God and his existence it is automatically thrown to
> the wayside.
I honestly haven't seen anything "tangible about God and his existence" so far in this forum. Or anywhere.
> You guys seem to let out a huge sigh of disgust because another damn
> Christian posted something stupid.
When someone says something stupid, we will respond to it.
> The very least you could do is try and have an open and analytical
> mind or approach.
We don't want to have our minds so open that our brains fall out. |
Antie. DIES GAUDII.
Facies Fabulosarum Feminarum
If you can name all six of the females in the picture above without looking up their names, and you can read the Latin phrase, pat yourself on the back. You're smart. |
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moakley
SFN Regular
USA
1888 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2002 : 06:25:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Antie
> And please correct me if I am wrong, it sounds like he uses the fact
> that since millions of people are theist, that theism in general is
> justified.
And that is the appealing to numbers fallacy.
Who was it that said, "Because a lot of people believe a silly thing, is it not still a silly thing?" |
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Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2002 : 07:58:11 [Permalink]
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Who was it that said, "Because a lot of people believe a silly thing, is it not still a silly thing?"
Don't know who said it but it is the answer to the age-old, Argument from Popularity.
The AfP is surely one of the weakest arguments going and is probably the most used: "Well, everybody's doing it!" as both my daughter have futily argued in the past, and as my grandbrats argue today. Futily.
Popularity is only evidence or how easily people are led.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Legallee Insane
Skeptic Friend
Canada
126 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2002 : 09:09:10 [Permalink]
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Why can't the religious believer simply put the burden on the skeptic, and ask him to justify his unbelief, with the underlying assumption that as between theism and atheism, it is the former that is obviously true and the latter that is obviously false?
Simple. Because in truth, neither theism or atheism are obviously false, but the fact of the matter is that there is far more proof to back up atheism. We cannot put the burden on the the skeptic because in most cases the skeptics are not the people making wild and outrageous accusations, and then failing to back them up.
Here is a typical example:
Believer: Of course God existed, and all of that Big Band stuff is ridiculous and utterly impossible. There is no proof to back up the BB.
Skeptic: First of all, all the proof of the BB is out there if you just read it and to call it bs is what is ridiculous. Second of all, how about you show me some of that proof of God's existence.
Believer: Prove to me that he didn't exist.
This is not an exact conversation, but I'm sure you get my point, right? |
--"Only the fool says in his heart: There is no god -- The wise says it to the world"
--"I darn you to HECK!" - Catbert
--"Don't worry, we're not laughing at you, we're laughing near you." |
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ConsequentAtheist
SFN Regular
641 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2002 : 12:09:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Legallee Insane
Simple. Because in truth, neither theism or atheism are obviously false, but the fact of the matter is that there is far more proof to back up atheism.
What the hell does is that suppose to mean? What/where is the 'far less proof to back up theism'? |
For the philosophical naturalist, the rejection of supernaturalism is a case of "death by a thousand cuts." -- Barbara Forrest, Ph.D. |
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