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the_ignored
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Posted - 12/11/2002 :  00:26:11  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Well, here they go again.
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?s=ab0cafe585eecddf4d4b8570fe3c0936&threadid=59593

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I would never have thought that one person in particular would have been purposely working to bring about the antichrist. And that one person has influenced a whole host of our celebrities.

That one person is Alister Crowley.

He PURPOSELY stated he was told BY SATAN to start the process of ushering in the kingdom for the antichrist. There are people TO THIS DAY carrying out his mission.

It sounds like a conspiracy theory right? Unfortunately, it is very well documentated. I was completely shocked when I watched this video event held by my church to show us what was going on. The people who did this video did an excellent job of documenting and verifying everything that went into this video, and it is over 4 hours long. It has been difficult for even non-believers to dispute with (our church has an outreach at UT), as the evidence is so obvious and very graphic.


http://www.goodfight.org -->can buy video here
http://www.musictruth.org-->can download and watch it here

quote:
Originally posted by cdohrer


My, oh, my, I'm almost sitting here in tears. I only had time to watch the first 15-20 minutes, but there is no doubt that music has an awful effect on our youth. Especially instructive is the statement made the ex-KGB agent, when asked about overthrowing "free" countries and making them into "communist" countries. The first step - DEMORALIZE the people. Does music accomplish this? Absolutely.

I'll watch more as I get a chance - but this definitely needs to be watched, especially those parents with adolescent/high school children.

Chris

YES, YES, YES!!!!!

So glad you watched it! It is an eye opener, isn't it?

Yes, please watch the whole thing when you can. Our church broke it up into 4 weeks of viewing (1 hour each) and that really is probably almost all you can take of it without it having a serious effect on you...

I know after each session, our college/career pastor giving the video always prayed that those believers leaving there that night would not be haunted by the images they saw.

It is powerful, people!


I don't have a working soundcard so I'll have to wait before I can check this stuff out and see if it's just more paraniod "Chick-esque" BS, or something else.

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

ktesibios
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USA
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Posted - 12/11/2002 :  01:28:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ktesibios a Private Message
Darn it. None of the text on either of the two sites is at all clear about just how they believe that music can exert a Satanic influence. I wonder if they're into that ol' "play it backwards" thing, but there's no way to tell but to sit through an unknown quantity of their movie. Sorry, but that's a bit thick.

If anyone does watch it, kindly mention whether there are any "backwards masking" claims. I'm curious because I put a backwards Satanic message in a rock 'n' roll record once.

"The Republican agenda is to turn the United States into a third-world shithole." -P.Z.Myers
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the_ignored
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Posted - 12/11/2002 :  02:43:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
It seems they do have those claims:

quote:
Thought I'd try to play backwards some tunes

Europes Final Countdown ( rapture song )

Play it backwards with cooledit 2000 www.cooledit.com
and it sings Christ was Crucified !

As for the mind figuring things backwards sounds like gobeldeegook to me ... ho hum
from "Speedy"

quote:
I remember

I am a child of the 80's.. I remember listening to Led Zep backwards "stairway to Heaven" and it said " I was a bad boy and now I am Satan". Now instead of hiding to play backwards they just sing it regular like it is nothing

AC/DC was the band of my time... It took me many years afterward to see what they were about..
even the Eagles and Hotel Calofornia(a stanic church) stunned me.

Amazing what we listened too.. and todays music makes that looks like the theme to Mary Poppins..

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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ktesibios
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USA
505 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2002 :  03:21:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ktesibios a Private Message
Ahhh, it didn't occur to me before to look at the guestbook.

Maybe I should post something there about the song I put the message in. I think the CD might still be around (Heck, I've still got around 20 copies that I never gave away because it- well, the technical term is "sucked").

It would be funny if there were a sudden demand for They Eat Their Young's unknown disc by curious creduloids, five years after we made it. Would serve 'em right as well. The message was designed to mess with the heads of the sort of people who look for that sort of thing, and I mixed it so as to make it painfully obvious that there was something backwards in there.


"The Republican agenda is to turn the United States into a third-world shithole." -P.Z.Myers
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Juliet
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Netherlands
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Posted - 01/29/2003 :  13:13:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Juliet's Homepage  Send Juliet an AOL message  Send Juliet an ICQ Message Send Juliet a Private Message
Does stairway to heaven contain any bad message if you play t in reverse mode, or does it scratch your nerve to get as speedy as your nickname sounds ?
"Big boys don't cry..."(any youth film), Bad Boys (as a band name, The boys are back in town (Bon Jovi),... but about bad boys nobody tried to sing...!
You are hunting from hell to hell (bad, bad, bad boy ... you make me feel so sad!... oh yes, but who sang it ?), shown by AC/DC: "...on the highway to hell"... your next?
Supercalifragilisticexspiraligethisch ? No idea how the exact spelling of that high conspirative word is up to. Just do not recommend all kids to follow, the Lemmings game is really out of todays markets I guess (is it?).

:) Juliet



Juliet
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Tokyodreamer
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Posted - 01/29/2003 :  14:18:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tokyodreamer a Private Message
Indeed...
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The NetArchitect
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Posted - 01/31/2003 :  09:32:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The NetArchitect's Homepage  Send The NetArchitect an AOL message  Send The NetArchitect an ICQ Message  Send The NetArchitect a Yahoo! Message Send The NetArchitect a Private Message
WEll I wonder what that makes those Horrible Songs like
`qe sera sera, whatevever will be will be...
or Don't rock the - don't rock the boat baby, ect...
In otherwords, it's alright to listen to music which says, Sit down - Shut up - be compliant - you might as well do what they say - don't make waves, be a sheep, do as your told, yadda yadda yadda - HorseDroppings!!!

I say, I was born naked, broke, alone, kicking and screaming, and FREE, - Iv'e lived Free - and I'll leave this place Free - One to a box - taking nothing with me. I meanhow could they allow for that, they can't Tax it if I take it with me right?

I am saddened by the depth our People have burried their heads in the sand, while their asses are exposed for all too see.

-We don't need Alien Races to come from other planets to Steal Our Children - We have CPS for that and they wouldn't take too kindly to some Outsider cutting in on their Action-
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Orpheus
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Posted - 02/24/2003 :  04:45:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Orpheus a Private Message
As I have, on numerous occations in the past, been regarded as the Anti-Christ, I feel compelled to reply to this topic..

1. Satanism is an officially recognised religion, so simply claiming something is bad because it is Satanistic is begging the question of why satanism is necessarily worse than any of the other lame-brain religious doctrines out there which teaches people to be sexually inhibited, scientifically ignorant, and generally bigoted. In fact, if any of the "satan-scared" have bothered to pick up a copy of the Satanic Bible by Anton LaVei, they'll see that, apart from the sections on magic, he is quite concerned about liberal, freethinking values.

2. I suppose if Christian rock-groups had backward messages on their tracks saying things like "contribute to Jesus now", it would be okay?

3. It seems that to many, communism and satanism go hand in hand, despite the fact that they are hugely seperate in geneology. Welcome back McCarthyism...

4. Maybe parents should be more worried about actually understanding the music and lifesyles of their kids, rather than condemning both. Just an idea...acceptance you know, how novel... A major cause of adolescent depression is the belief that their parents don't understand or care to understand their lives.

Find your own damned answers!
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Radar
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/24/2003 :  07:00:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Radar a Private Message
Personally I think the Teletubbies are the antichrists.

Why would you want to play songs backward for I mean I know some are bad played in normal ways but playing them backward what are you nuts

Tact is the ability to tell a man he has an open mind when he has a hole in his head.

I spy with my little eye a UFO, Unattached fit object.
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Kil
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USA
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Posted - 02/24/2003 :  19:50:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Hey hey my my.....

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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Trish
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Posted - 02/27/2003 :  14:08:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Orpheus
4. Maybe parents should be more worried about actually understanding the music and lifesyles of their kids, rather than condemning both. Just an idea...acceptance you know, how novel... A major cause of adolescent depression is the belief that their parents don't understand or care to understand their lives.



Funny you should mention this. Odd situation, my kid gets annoyed that I listen to Slayer on occasion, while she'd rather listen to Disturbed. I don't think I have a problem understanding the music or accepting the clothing etc, she has a problem with my music choice being to violent, sometimes.

...no one has ever found a 4.5 billion year old stone artifact (at the right geological stratum) with the words "Made by God."
No Sense of Obligation by Matt Young

"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying and vile!"
Mother Night by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

They (Women Marines) don't have a nickname, and they don't need one. They get their basic training in a Marine atmosphere, at a Marine Post. They inherit the traditions of the Marines. They are Marines.
LtGen Thomas Holcomb, USMC
Commandant of the Marine Corps, 1943
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Orpheus
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Posted - 03/03/2003 :  04:35:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Orpheus a Private Message
I have also found that younger folk have found my music too offensive/loud on occation! I would never have guessed...

It is unfortunate however that many parents would rather listen to Dr Phil, mainly because he tells them what they want to hear, rather than their children.

Find your own damned answers!
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