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gezzam
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Australia
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 Posted - 01/26/2003 : 11:11:18
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Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 01/27/2003 : 01:22:06 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by gezzam
Why can't the conservative right wing Xtians accept that people may be different.
Because that is the whole point of religion. Forcing your world view on others and control them. If the founders of a religion are anti-intellectual bigots, that will be the nature of their religion. |
"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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Legallee Insane
Skeptic Friend
Canada
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Posted - 01/27/2003 : 01:48:03 [Permalink]
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gezzam:
Why can't the conservative right wing Xtians accept that people may be different.
Because religion is based around conformity. If someone doesn't conform then they are labelled a misfit and an outcast.
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Example #1:
''The minority won tonight,'' said Rev. Paul Durham, minister at Radnor Baptist Church. ''The council has done a disservice to this city tonight.''
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Example #2:
Standing on the east side of the front steps of the courthouse, 10-year-old Grace Phelps-Roper yelled to the crowd of hundreds on the west side: ''You're all going to hell!'' The child was holding a sign saying, ''Thank God for Sept. 11.'' When the planes hit the twin towers, Grace said, ''it was God's warning about fags in America.'' She is a granddaughter of Phelps, an anti-gay preacher who flew to Nashville with a group of five others to tell the council not to pass the law.
Most Christians prayed to their god because they felt the need for supernatural guidance. Apparently some of them were also grateful that some homosexuals had probably been killed in the process.
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''If they pass that law, they've gone the way of ancient Sodom, and they'll suffer the doom of ancient Sodom,'' Phelps said. He also said he was tired of ''kissy-poo'' politically correct preachers who don't oppose homosexuality.
I know a few preachers, and while they don't exactly support the gay lifestyle, they are not the kind of people who will pass judgement on someone because of their sexual preference. I think that people should certainly be mature enough to look past a persons sex life as a basis for personal judgement. |
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Tim
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USA
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Posted - 01/27/2003 : 01:59:22 [Permalink]
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Maybe, when the little girl gets to be a teen ager, she will rebel against the immoral teaching of her grandfather. Unfortunately, if her grandfather is a true Christian then he must have the child killed, (Deut. Ch.21). Or, is that order just for boys?
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"We got an issue in America. Too many good docs are gettin' out of business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their -- their love with women all across this country." Dubya in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, 9/6/2004
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 01/27/2003 : 10:02:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Tim
Maybe, when the little girl gets to be a teen ager, she will rebel against the immoral teaching of her grandfather. Unfortunately, if her grandfather is a true Christian then he must have the child killed, (Deut. Ch.21). Or, is that order just for boys?
You go, girls...rebel!
Nope. Passage refers to children, not just male children.
But the fundies have the attitude that you need to read the Whole Bible(tm). By Whole Bible(tm) I mean the highly selective quotation of the Bible (often out of context). |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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ConsequentAtheist
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Posted - 01/29/2003 : 14:07:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by gezzam
How typical for the Xtians ... Why can't the conservative right wing Xtians accept that people may be different.
Do you truly find this to be typical for Christians, or do you "accept that people may be different"? |
For the philosophical naturalist, the rejection of supernaturalism is a case of "death by a thousand cuts." -- Barbara Forrest, Ph.D. |
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gezzam
SFN Regular
Australia
751 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2003 : 15:10:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ConsequentAtheist
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Originally posted by gezzam
How typical for the Xtians ... Why can't the conservative right wing Xtians accept that people may be different.
Do you truly find this to be typical for Christians, or do you "accept that people may be different"?
Of course I accept that people may be different. Some of my friends are gay, one quite enjoys wearing frocks and some of my friends are atheists like me. I also have some friends that are Catholic and Christian. I don't have anything against them. Hurt myself or my loved ones and I'll some out swingin' without a moments hesitation, but just being a little different from the rest of society does not give me the right to judge you. Mum always said to me, "You can never judge a book by its cover" and that is true.
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