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LyricalReckoner
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Tokyodreamer
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 Posted - 02/28/2003 : 20:49:17 [Permalink]
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From the Yahoo! article:
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But Judge Diarmuid O'Scannlain disagreed..."If reciting the Pledge is truly a 'religious act' in violation of the Establishment Clause then so is a recitation of the Constitution itself, the Declaration of Independence, the Gettysburg Address, the National Motto or the singing of the National Anthem," he wrote, in reference to the fact that all of the above refer to God.
Absolute bullshit. Unless I'm mistaken, the Constitution makes no mention of God, the DoI does not mention God ("God" is obviously referring to the Judeo-Xian God, of which the "Creator" is not), the National Motto most definitely is in violation, and the National Anthem doesn't mention God (at least in the only verse that is ever sung)!
I can't believe the article printed these lies.
[I just searched the Constitution, and no instances of the word "God" nor the word "Creator" are present.] |
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PhDreamer
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Posted - 02/28/2003 : 22:31:10 [Permalink]
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| O'Scannlain's opinion illustrates just how intellectually empty are the main pro-"under God" arguments. His reasoning is so absurd, it borders on satire. |
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@tomic
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NubiWan
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Posted - 03/01/2003 : 00:54:12 [Permalink]
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| Uh.., by gaining control of the congress, the presidency, and thereby controling judicial appointments? |
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Antie
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Posted - 03/04/2003 : 00:08:26 [Permalink]
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> Absolute bullshit. Unless I'm mistaken, the Constitution makes no
> mention of God
Desperate people like to point out how it mentions "in the Year of our Lord." |
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Gorgo
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Posted - 03/04/2003 : 06:19:38 [Permalink]
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I had someone tell me once that that was proof there was a god.
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Desperate people like to point out how it mentions "in the Year of our Lord."
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I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter
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walt fristoe
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 12:01:26 [Permalink]
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Check out this editiorial cartoon. |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 13:13:06 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by PhDreamer
O'Scannlain's opinion illustrates just how intellectually empty are the main pro-"under God" arguments. His reasoning is so absurd, it borders on satire.
I find it infuriating that they always focus on the words instead of the blatantly illegal law which added them to the Pledge in the first place. They say the wording is what is at issue. It isn't. Religious references within laws are not in an of themselves illegal. Questionable, but not outright illegal. As long as the law has a valid secular reason (the 1954 Act does not), it may stand.
The pro-God folks always seem to concentrate on the words instead of the law. How curious. |
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PhDreamer
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 15:09:00 [Permalink]
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What slays me is O'Scannlain's reasoning establishes a false dichotomy thusly:
a) Pledge that contains "under God" = neutral/deistic
b) Pledge that does not contain "under God" = atheistic
By extension, any document or pledge or phrase explicitly recognized by the government that does not include a reference to a deity is atheistic. Just mind-bogglingly stupid.
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