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@tomic
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walt fristoe
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 Posted - 03/29/2003 : 17:48:33 [Permalink]
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Well, it will probably depend on the ultimate outcome of the criminal action in Iraq. But it seems to me that his actions, aside from just directing military adventurism, are criminal in themselves. I would like to see him (and the whole Bush regime) prosecuted and imprisoned for what they will have done to this country and the world. Their actions are nothing short of despicable.
But on a more happy note, it seems that Bush's "faith based initiative" bit the dust! |
"If God chose George Bus of all the people in the world, how good could God be?"
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| Edited by - walt fristoe on 03/29/2003 17:49:31 |
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Tim
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Posted - 03/29/2003 : 23:56:24 [Permalink]
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Something is very, very, very wrong if this asshole is allowed to keep his job.
Why not? He's a hero to most. Have you seen the mainstream media criticize the Asministration once during this debaucle? Bush and Rumsfeld publically deride criticism that the majority of Americans have never heard. If TV only shows one side, the general public tends to believe that the dissent must come from the commies and the whackos. Have you been to your local barber shop, lately? (I won't cut my hair, but it's the only place in town to get a hot shave, and to place a friendly sports wager)
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I would like to see him (and the whole Bush regime) prosecuted and imprisoned for what they will have done to this country and the world.
I was wondering if Rumsfeld was actually breaking any laws. I went to the source, the Constitution, and couldn't find a thing about incompetence, or starting wars for personal and political favor. I couldn't even find that common sense was an issue.
However, I did find these duties listed in the Constitution; quote:
To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;
To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;
To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
Of course, this comes from Article 1, Section 8, which is concerned with the duties of the Legislative Branch. (When did the Legislature defer it's responsibilities to the executive?)
Anyway, if this Administration has acted in a way that is prosecutable, then we really don't have to worry about it. The Executive has already made irrelevant the Legislature and the Judiciary by turning back the Presidential Records Act and the FOIA. Who's left to warn the people--The Corporate Media
http://www.apsanet.org/new/pra.cfm
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20011128/
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But on a more happy note, it seems that Bush's "faith based initiative" bit the dust!
How so? Give me something to smile about...Please! |
"We got an issue in America. Too many good docs are gettin' out of business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their -- their love with women all across this country." Dubya in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, 9/6/2004
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@tomic
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Posted - 03/30/2003 : 01:31:47 [Permalink]
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it's hard to believe that a man can make political decisions that are bound to cost soldier's lives in order to save some cash and it's not a crime. Even if there is not a clear case for criminal wrongdoing although it seems clear enough to me I think that once the dust and blood has settled there will be many questions asked. Some questions are already being asked and if there are more fiascos the rate of question asking should pick up sharply.
it was somewhat amusing when the President showed his displeasure at the press second guessing his administration when I thought that that was what a free press was for in the first place. I was shocked that he didn't understand the role of the press in a free society. Our President does want a free society doesn't he?
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filthy
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Posted - 03/30/2003 : 05:13:47 [Permalink]
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it was somewhat amusing when the President showed his displeasure at the press second guessing his administration when I thought that that was what a free press was for in the first place. I was shocked that he didn't understand the role of the press in a free society. Our President does want a free society doesn't he?
The bastard doesn't appear to, does he? I seem to recall that he made a couple of 'jokes' about how much easier it would be if the US were a dictatorship. With him as the dictator. Hmm. He might not have been joking after all.
As for Rumsfeld ignoring military advice: this comes as a suprise, how? Stupidity as well as greed had been the hallmark of this administration from the get-go.
We're in trouble.
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walt fristoe
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Posted - 03/30/2003 : 15:16:15 [Permalink]
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| More on the "watering down" of the faith based initiatives can be found here. |
"If God chose George Bus of all the people in the world, how good could God be?"
Bill Maher |
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