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The NetArchitect
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Posted - 04/05/2003 :  19:16:46  Show Profile  Visit The NetArchitect's Homepage  Send The NetArchitect an AOL message  Send The NetArchitect an ICQ Message  Send The NetArchitect a Yahoo! Message Send The NetArchitect a Private Message
The Blood of Children Stains our Flag


by M. A. Luttrell Sr.
The NetArchitect

How will they write the History of the Destruction of the Children of a foreign land?

When the children of the original American colonies took up arms, to avoid being "liberated" by the British, and sold into slavery for the King of England we looked upon them as warriors, Americans, soldiers in the making. When the children of Scotland defended their farms from the English invaders, they were looked upon by their people as true Scots, and the children of true patriots. When the children of Iceland rose up and began using the cover of night to slaughter the foreign warmongers come to take their homes, their parents, their lands, their lives, they were looked upon as valiant, and children of Heathen gods, until the Althing of the year 1000 when their own council sold them out to the "invaders". When the children of Palestine defend their dead parent's homes from destruction by an American bulldozer driven by an Israeli soldier with their dying breath, they are martyrs, children of an Arab god. When the Russian children defended their homes from invasion by the "invaders from a foreign shore", it was written as patriotic. What do these children have in common? None of them wanted to live under the rule of a foreign land, and like Patrick Henry, perferred liberty or death, not bondage to a race of invaders.

I have seen the images of innocents slain. Images which the mainstream media refuse to publish for fear of an uprising so great in America, that the current American regime would fall in a day. Slain by faceless bombs with things written on them that even WE dare not repeat, right here in the land of the free, for fear of being thought a traitor, a madman, or politically incorrect. Children slaughtered by grown men and women in the name of "liberation"? Will our children be so brave I wonder? Will they defend our homes if we are invaded? And will they defend our homes from an invasion from within our own country, by flak-jacketed, jackbooted thugs?

I have not heard from my son, a 101st Airborne Ranger since the day the conflict in Iraq arose, and I wonder if he is there... if he is dead, lying in some foreign morgue, or worse, while the government plays hide and seek with the bodies and the numbers, rounds up more to send to battle, to "liberate" more starving Arab souls from sanctions, starvation, sin, disease and death. I wonder if he will come home with his head held high, medals on his chest, free of any missing body parts, or will he just come home in parts, will he come home at all, is he even gone. I would know if there were any "press" in this land with the balls to report the truth, but for now I wait.

How will history look upon us, we, who did not have the power to oust our own leader, in this land where our own children are beaten, arrested, and gunned down by those with grandiose dreams of false authority and little conscience. How will they record the words and works and deeds of those who have had stolen from our homes by socialist "workers," our own flesh and blood because our homes were dirty, or our children played outside on a summer's day. Children stolen because of the color of their hair and eyes, and sold over the internet to the highest bidder, (and then more of our monies, extorted through purchase, they are paid, as well as pay the state a bouns/bounty of up to $8,000.00. per child "liberated from bad parents")

Never again in my lifetime, to my grandchildren's grandchildren, will we of the United States of America, be free to roam the earth upon which we were born as sovereign people, without fear of death. How will history speak of us? Will it write us down as a generation "at risk"? How will we be seen in the light of the next generation, by our children's children, when they are forced to live under laws we did nothing to abolish, under a regime of facism we did nothing to destroy, as slaves to an American Aristocracy, we did nothing to diminish?

History, as they say, is written by the victor, taught by the posterity of the victorious, to the children of the "liberated." What will they teach our children's grandchildren about Our generation? Will they teach this as the darkest days of U.S. history, when even our own children were "liberated" because they were "at risk" of being harmed? What account shall we give to the historians, as to the reasons we did not protect them, from a system designed to indoctrinate them into Communism, Facism, and Socialism?

How will you be remembered?

For when all is said and done, and the last curtain falls upon the stages of our lives, only the ones who remember us, will be there to tell the truth.


-We don't need Alien Races to come from other planets to Steal Our Children - We have CPS for that and they wouldn't take too kindly to some Outsider cutting in on their Action-

Edited by - The NetArchitect on 04/06/2003 12:24:26

Dave W.
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Posted - 04/05/2003 :  23:37:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Is it just me, or is this mostly nonsense? Especially stuff like this:
quote:
Never again in my lifetime, to my grandchildren's grandchildren, will we of the United States of America, be free to roam the earth upon which we were born as Sovereign People, without fear of death.
It has never been true. Not for the U.S.A. nor any other "Sovereign People." Nobody has ever been able to freely roam the world without fear of death. Why else is there a Popemobile?

Anyway, the whole thing strikes me as incredibly forgetful of history as it stands now, and given the inappropriate captialization, it sounds hysterical. At least you didn't write those words in all caps, but still...

I sympathize with the loss-of-contact with your son, but the rest of the message seems to me to be outrageous, considering what's gone on before, in the very conflicts you mention. Romanticizing the past is as bad as forgetting it.

How will I be remembered? I sincerely hope it'll be different from how you are painting "us" in general. And part of my problem with your tirade is your inclusion of me with you.

Another part is: why is it that the page you linked to has extra stuff at the end? Namely, this:
quote:
I grieve for our nation, and the untold suffering that will be wrought. As history has shown, you can possess the greatest armaments in the world, but if your cause and motives are not right, only catastrophe will result.

"Jack Walters, March 8, 2003"

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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/06/2003 :  18:33:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Edited by - The NetArchitect on 04/06/2003 12:24:26
You missed an "Our."
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Lisa
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USA
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Posted - 04/10/2003 :  09:52:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
First of all Net, breathe normally. Try to relax. My husband is also over there, so I've had to learn to take some stuff in stride.
We're living in ugly times. Despotic dictators allowed to rape and torture at will, and countries that look the other way because of lucrative contracts.
I know this has happened a lot in the past, so don't even bother slamming me on that one. And I know that this country has helped some countries who are guilty of many abuses. Now that we're truly in the information age, abuses like this are more known. I hope people won't stand for it anymore.
Net, I hope your kid is okay. I worry about my husband every second. But they're doing the right thing. PM me if you need to. I'll be here.
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MissNonconformist
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Posted - 04/13/2003 :  20:34:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit MissNonconformist's Homepage  Send MissNonconformist an AOL message  Send MissNonconformist a Yahoo! Message Send MissNonconformist a Private Message
I guess on this one, I dont believe its anything more than the Bush administration giving half truths and lies to get the people to cheer their hidden motives.
Quite frankly I can understand pain or outrage coming from anyone who has their family in the military..being sent to act upon the Bush administrations wishes...its not about terror. Its known that three days after sept 11 the bush admin had the plan set to invade iraq...i hardly think this is about terror.
Just watch whats going on quietly in the background...keep your eyes on the administration..whos doing what. Take a closer look at whos going to make a profit on the "liberation" of Iraq.

I think by saying "war is something we have to face" is too easily accepting of war being the means to resolve.
We cant stop questioning, and frankly we can allow such distruction come to a country as it has in Iraq...based upon the government feeding on American fear and... lack of world knowledge. There is a big picture, and it seems people dont see it. That is what we should be troubled about, if the Bush admin can take hold of our country in the manner that it has, it says something of the severity of problems we could face in the future.

I guess, I am still waiting for history to stop repeating itself itself.

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@tomic
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Posted - 04/13/2003 :  20:50:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
They are already setting the stage to invade Syria on the flimsiest of reasons. How long is everyone going to quick back and wave the flag before the look up and the stars and strips is nothing but a sham? It's hard to believe that we have come to this. I once thought Amrica stood for something besides kicking ass across the world for no other eason than the fact that we can.

I hope good people start asking serious questions and stop quaking in fear because the road we are going down now looks a lot like the road to destruction.

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Gorgo
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Posted - 04/14/2003 :  04:44:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
This has been happening since the beginning of the country. This is not an aberration of the system, this IS the system.

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The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
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filthy
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Posted - 04/14/2003 :  05:04:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
This has been happening since the beginning of the country. This is not an aberration of the system, this IS the system.


Correction, Gorgo. This has been happening since a small, hunter-gatherer-scavenger invented the stone hand axe. And probably earlier.

If History has taught us anything, it's that subjugating other peoples never works out in the long run. We have been poor students -- witness the former Soviet Union.

I too, hope that Net's kid makes it back ok. I hope the same for all.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

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niamh
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Posted - 04/14/2003 :  07:31:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send niamh an ICQ Message Send niamh a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Gorgo

This has been happening since the beginning of the country. This is not an aberration of the system, this IS the system.


i agree.. but i do not have the nerves to waste them on great injustices in the past, or present.. as i see it, it is never about freedom of some distant, unknown people, it's always about interests.. coz war = money.. or food on someones tables..
as for iraqian children, they've been wiped out for over 10yrs now..
nothing new.. and about the history, do not worry yourself.. history has it's ways of showing itself in the light of the victory..
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filthy
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Posted - 04/14/2003 :  09:40:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
niamh, welcome to SFN!

Yes, you're right. If you ignore history, it will, sooner or later, come back to bite you. And indeed, wars are mainly started for loot.

Great to see you here. We don't get to talk with many folks from your neck of the woods.



"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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niamh
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Posted - 04/15/2003 :  03:31:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send niamh an ICQ Message Send niamh a Private Message
..i still believe that one day war will grow into duel of two presidents instead of sacrificing large number of people who are probably against mass killing.. but not likely because the war is natural regulator of human population ..

bwt, thanks on the warm walcoming.. though i've been living in Serbia for the last 5 yrs..
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NubiWan
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A second on the welcome, niamh. Umm.., without WMD's, war isn't working very well as a "natural regulator" of the human population, thou. There is still just too many other people. Ya know, Saddam did offer Dubya a duel early on, it didn't receive much, if any response. *L*

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chainsaw
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Posted - 04/17/2003 :  10:18:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send chainsaw a Private Message
It seems to me now that we have perfected war (it's quick and those who draw first lose few soldiers) we will get more of it. Maybe even the preferred first rather than last choice.

You can "believe" what you want, but you do have to get your science right or you'll flunk science.
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Mespo_man
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Posted - 04/17/2003 :  11:46:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Mespo_man a Private Message
quote:
..i still believe that one day war will grow into duel of two presidents instead of sacrificing large number of people who are probably against mass killing.. but not likely because the war is natural regulator of human population ..




The current crop of leaders hasn't established a very good precedent, niamh. Mullah Omar, Osama bin Laden and Saddam Huessin all seem to have graduated from the "Follow me men, I'm right behind you" school of leadership technique.

When the chips are down, run like hell. Use your "Information Minister" to keep up a brave front. In the White House, his name is Ari Fleischer.


(:raig
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niamh
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Posted - 04/18/2003 :  03:54:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send niamh an ICQ Message Send niamh a Private Message
..I'm well aware of that.. a life's worth non in this sencless age..
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niamh
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Posted - 04/18/2003 :  03:56:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send niamh an ICQ Message Send niamh a Private Message
. sensless. pardon me.
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