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Dave W.
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 Posted - 07/12/2003 : 11:39:55 [Permalink]
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Phobos wrote:quote:
Ah yes, I think you're right. But I think there is some genetic marker on the y-chromosome too that allows for some calculation of the "Adam". I don't recall the details offhand.
Well, I'm pretty sure that the point in time at which the Y diverged from the X has been calculated, but that'd have to be many millions of years prior to Homo even appearing as a genus. |
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 07/12/2003 : 16:14:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by moakley
Thank You. This suggest that they didn't necessarily trace the African tribe to a specific Jewish family from old testament times. Just to Jewish ancestory.
The reason why the african tribe identified itself as jewish in the first place had to do with a special tradition they kept, very special to just one of the jewish tribes as described in the Torah (or is it Talmud, I keep getting these two mixed up). I don't recall the specifics, because it was at least five years ago. It had something to do with priests performing a special kind of function, and that this duty was hereditary. That's why it was fairly easy to follow the Y-chromosome "blood lines". |
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nukular
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Posted - 08/06/2003 : 12:01:31 [Permalink]
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The markers used to classify male Jewish heritage were discussed on a NOVA program about a group of South Africans who claimed Jewish descent. It was determined that they indeed show these markers. I can't recall exactly what the name of the group of people, but they are believed to be descendents of traders from Oman, who took indigenious women for wives. Another such group is the Fellasha Jews of Ethopia, who probably are descendents of traders as well, but whose own mythic tradition has their origins arising with Solomon and the Queen of Sheeba.
Note: A quick search of the PBS site has yielded the name of the tribe, the Lemba, and the following address for more info
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/israel/
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Phobos
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Posted - 08/11/2003 : 15:04:01 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
Phobos wrote:quote:
Ah yes, I think you're right. But I think there is some genetic marker on the y-chromosome too that allows for some calculation of the "Adam". I don't recall the details offhand.
Well, I'm pretty sure that the point in time at which the Y diverged from the X has been calculated, but that'd have to be many millions of years prior to Homo even appearing as a genus.
Actually, I'm talking about mutations within the genes of the Y chromosome (e.g., the Sry gene that starts the process in making a male embryo). These mutations, since they are carried on the Y chromosome, are only passed from father to son and may allow for relationship trees to be drawn up.
This site seems to mention it (scroll to bottom)
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/mitoeve.html
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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/15/2003 : 22:35:18 [Permalink]
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Ah, well, if you're talking about human males, the of course! 
Seriously, I hadn't read about the Y-chromosome Adam. Neat stuff. |
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