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Jarrid
Skeptic Friend
101 Posts |
 Posted - 03/02/2004 : 18:02:51
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I am being sued for $871.15 for a repossessed vehicle....
"This letter is for the purpose of arranging for you to make restitution of my loss on the 1996 Chevy S10. Expenses are as follows:
Sale of truck to you $5,000.00
Repossession expenses $ 513.15
(Fuel, hotel, airline expenses, meals and service for truck)
Title Transfer $ 25.00
Clean and Detail Truck $ 125.00
Oil Change $ 8.00
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Total $5, 671.15
Amount Paid by you ($ 800.00)
Sale of truck ($ 4,000.00)
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My loss ($ 871.15) "
Ok here's the story. I bought a truck, on payments(I know, stupid me) from my former boss. I payed him a LOT more than the 800.00 he claims that I payed him, but about a month ago, I threw away most of my records because I figured the transaction was complete and that I didn't need them. I live in South Dakota now, but recently moved here from Indiana. When he flew here to repossess the truck, I made him sign a paper saying that on 11/17/03, he picked up the truck and it was in good condition. I guess I don't see how it is my problem that he only sold the truck for 4000? Also, when I was visiting in Indiana in November, he called my grandmother's house at least twice a day, ranging from 5am or so to sometimes midnight. Also, he followed friends of mine around. He came to my church, even though we had talked on the phone, to demand his money(inside the church building, mind you). He called my girlfriends parents and discussed with them the intimate details of the situation, he discussed the intimate details with multiple other people, he lied about the details to multiple people, threatened to have me jailed, and even threatened to sue me, which he sent me a letter which I received today that says that is his intention if I do not pay him the 871.15, which I CERTAINLY do not have....I'm so confused as to what I should do! Does anyone have any advice or thoughts on this? If so, PLEASE share them!
Jarrid
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Renae
SFN Regular
543 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2004 : 18:20:33 [Permalink]
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I'm SO not a lawyer, and you SO need one...but my thought...
If you paid him with checks, your bank should have records of those payments, even if you threw yours away. I'd call your bank ASAP.
I don't see how you're responsible for the oil change and detailing. And I'm totally baffled as to how much he can collect from you if he has the car back.
Good luck, Jarrid.  |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2004 : 18:23:04 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Jarrid
I payed him a LOT more than the 800.00 he claims that I payed him, but about a month ago, I threw away most of my records because I figured the transaction was complete and that I didn't need them.
It was a big mistake throwing away all those papers until you had written comfirmation from him that all payments had been made. As long as he didn't sign such a paper, the ownership of the truck was ambious. My guess is that he counted on your naivity in order to screw you over.
When it comes to money, my experience is that you can't even trust "good christians", even (good Christian) people you regard as family or friends, if the amount gets high enough.
My only experience of american courts besides movies are a few episodes of Judge Judy (which I assume is fiction too, unless anyone here can verify authenticity). If Judge Judy is any indication on how it works, you could counter-sue him for stalking and harassment. From the story you told, it seems as if you have lots of wittnesses.
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2004 : 19:56:50 [Permalink]
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Jarrid, you need to talk to a lawyer who is familiar with your local laws, as laws regarding small claims, harrassment, contracts, etc. vary from state to state, and even from county to county. My bet is, you won't find a qualified lawyer who can give you truly sound legal advice here.
And I say this without meaning to offend you, but with the intent of cutting this discussion short. If any lawyers qualified to give Jarrid advice happen to read this post, please don't hesitate to send him a PM with your personal contact info in it. Any other legal advice posted here will almost necessarily be a waste of Jarrid's time right now, as he'll just need to get it verified with a qualified lawyer, anyway.
If, however, you want to talk about the dangers of buying high-dollar items from ex-employers, Judge Judy, or other such things, please be my guest.  |
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babthrower
New Member
Canada
10 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2004 : 18:33:54 [Permalink]
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The amount he's suing for makes it small claims. This is good, because small claims courts are cheap to use. You should sit down with paper and pencil and try to remember ALL the evidence you can think of. Were some payments payroll deductions? Did you have a witness for any of the payments?
Damn right we should keep receipts. They say for seven years. Well I recently got a collection call about a debt I paid in full in 1982!!!!!!!!!
Luckily I DID keep that documentation because it was a large amount. |
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Tim
SFN Regular
USA
775 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2004 : 12:18:36 [Permalink]
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Jarrid,
I don't know if there are any attorneys familiar with civil law in the two states you mentioned, but as Dave suggested, if there are I would hope that they contact you.
In the meantime, have you tried the bulletin board at Law guru?
http://www.lawguru.com/cgi/bbs/
freeadvice.com may be of some help, too.
If not, there's always a lawyer, but for the amount you're being sued for it may not be worth it.
http://www.attorneylocate.com/
http://lawyers.findlaw.com/lawyer/splash2.html
http://www.lawinfo.com/
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moakley
SFN Regular
USA
1888 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2004 : 20:31:03 [Permalink]
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| Good Luck Jarrid. I hope you are able to resolve this quickly and to your satisfaction. |
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Jarrid
Skeptic Friend
101 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2004 : 06:38:36 [Permalink]
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Ok I'm back...with an update if anyone cares;) jk. Basically I just decided to "bite the bullet" and pay this guy because it seemed like the right thing to do. By that, I mean that I don't feel I owed him this money, but he says I do, so I decided to pay him. Anyway, the sucky thing is that as I mentioned, he went to my church...well he told a WHOLE lot of people that I basically tried to "steal" his truck from him, etc...so now everyone at that church thinks I'm a thief and a liar...makes me so mad! Ugh! lol anyway my pastors have been talking to a bunch of people behind my back about me! So I quit going to church:) It's actually a lot more stress-free. And I got a little bit of satisfaction the other day while eating breakfast at a restaurant...the senior pastor at the church(oh, by the way, which I attended for 18 years...I'm only 19 years old) was there and stopped at my table to talk. He asked me where I'd been, etc...so I told him what was on my mind...that he was a two faced back stabber and that I didn't think I could listen to anything he had to say if he was going to do things like that. His face got white and then he denied everything and said he was going to call the people I had got my information from "that very day".....2 weeks later, he still hasn't called any of them, even though I gave him their phone numbers and everything....anyhoo just thought I'd give you all an update on this situation and say man it feels good to live for my own standards rather than someone elses.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2004 : 07:07:31 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Jarrid
So I quit going to church:) It's actually a lot more stress-free.
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...anyhoo just thought I'd give you all an update on this situation and say man it feels good to live for my own standards rather than someone elses.
Good for you!
People going to church is not a guarantee they don't bahave crappy and unchristian. I realized that some 15 years ago. One would think that their God would have an invested interest in keeping their church on track, but since nothing really ever changes, one could draw the conclusion that either God don't give a shit, or there is no God who can give a shit. One way of the other the result remains the same: Church-going people are just as crappy as any other heathen. 
Now that you see that Pastors are not flawless, will you start treating them with some well deserved skepticism? (shameless plug for SFN...)
Edited to add: It's nice to see you're back. I hope you will stay a while. |
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| Edited by - Dr. Mabuse on 07/01/2004 07:09:28 |
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