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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 04/15/2004 : 15:03:30
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Top-flight scientists have something to tell you about evolution. Such statements will never be found in the popular magazines, alongside gorgeous paintings of ape-man and Big Bangs and solemn pronouncements about millions of years for this rock and that fish. Instead they are generally reserved only for professional books and journals.
Most scientists are working in very narrow fields; they do not see the overall picture, and assume, even though their field does not prove evolution, that perhaps other areas of science probably vindicate it. They are well-meaning men. The biologists and geneticists know their facts, and research does not prove evolution, but assume that geology does. The geologists know their field does not prove evolution, but hope that the biologists and geneticists have proven it. Those who do know the facts, fear to disclose them to the general public, lest they be fired. But they do write articles in their own professional journals and books, condemning evolutionary theory.
http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/01-evol1.htm
I was gonna cherry-pick this inanity, but it that seemed too redundant. I'll just let it ride upon it's own square wheels.
Enjoy!
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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 Posted - 04/26/2004 : 19:26:24 [Permalink]
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I'm impressed by the number of quotes.
(Then contents of the quotes is another matter) |
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tw101356
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 04/26/2004 : 20:38:40 [Permalink]
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Has anyone ever mined ICR, AIG, etc writings for choice quotes that 'prove' evolution is correct or that god doesn't exist, when taken out of context?
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 04/27/2004 : 06:28:27 [Permalink]
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| TW, I'm not sure that anyone has done that (though it would be pretty funny), but there is the Horse's Mouth (PDF file), a collection of quotes which demonstrates that "Intelligent Design" is simply Biblical creationism in disguise. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2004 : 21:00:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
TW, I'm not sure that anyone has done that (though it would be pretty funny), but there is the Horse's Mouth (PDF file), a collection of quotes which demonstrates that "Intelligent Design" is simply Biblical creationism in disguise.
Here's a really interesting quote:
quote:
“Theistic evolution is exactly the same thing as
atheistic evolution only with some meaningless,
vacuous God-talk spread around. It's not really an
intellectually honest position at all; it's a kind of
political compromise.”
- Phillip Johnson quoted, "Designer genes: Phillip E.
Johnson talks to Peter Hastie," Australian Presbyterian, No.
531, October 2001, pp.4-8.
He complains about "theistic evolution" being dishonest, even though he supports it. What a morally bankrupt man. |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 04/28/2004 : 06:56:13 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by tw101356
Has anyone ever mined ICR, AIG, etc writings for choice quotes that 'prove' evolution is correct or that god doesn't exist, when taken out of context?
- TW
I doubt that would work-- most of the publications arguing for creationism are coordinated works of propaganda. The articles are written at a very basic reading level and make only the most basic declarative sentences.
Moreover, because of the ideological nature of AIG, ICR, etc., they would never publish the works of a dissenting view. Indeed, unlike the world of real science where scholars are encouraged to challenge the predominating theories, creationism is by definition static; no one will ever come forward with new 'evidence' that, say, light was created on the second day instead of the third (or whatever).
I looked through the latest material on the AIG website. There's very little that one could cull-- even out of context material-- that could be used to spin the notion that creationists are against creationism. But again: this only exposes the un-scientific nature of creationism, and argues in favor of keeping it out of our schools' science classes. |
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