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welshdean
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 06/22/2004 : 18:56:42
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Has any body read this book!
I've found a shocking quote in the synopsis:
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He brings the book to a close by discussing the nature of science - that it progresses through paradigms which explain some of the facts, but where anomalous ones are suppressed - which is why there is reluctance to give due weight to the many problems with the theory of evolution.
From: http://www.leightonacademic.co.uk/eutm2.htm
It made me think when I found his credentials, is he qualified, has he published a paper?
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David Swift graduated in Natural Sciences from St John's College, Cambridge in 1974 and subsequently obtained an MSc in Water Resources Technology from the University of Birmingham. His research has encompassed many aspects of the hydrological cycle, and he lectures on a range of environmental concerns.
I should reserve judgement 'til I've read it. But it does sound a little 'woo woo'.
Edited to add: I found the link at the bottom of these pages!!! If it is 'woo woo' will it be dropped or will we condone it?
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Edited by - welshdean on 06/22/2004 18:59:38
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Starman
SFN Regular
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 02:34:36 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally quoted by welshdean
which is why there is reluctance to give due weight to the many problems with the theory of evolution.
From: http://www.leightonacademic.co.uk/eutm2.htm
I find it funny that though there are many problems with evolution,
these kooks fearless champions of the truth are never able to specify even a single one. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 03:17:55 [Permalink]
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Apparently it's more ID stuff, albeit a bit better written than most. A quich Google came up with this:
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Lastly the author considers why scientists are so reluctant to reject evolution in view of the overwhelming evidence against it. Naturally this brings him to a discussion of paradigms and methodological naturalism. Not surprisingly, the widespread prejudice in science against anything smacking of the supernatural has not escaped his notice. In the end he turns his attention to the argument to design, and the criteria for recognizing suitable phenomena. Interestingly he declares that Paley was, in fact, right: "We now know that all living organisms and, indeed, many of their parts considered independently, are unequivocal examples of design without a viable natural explanation" (p. 403). On this amazing note, the author finds himself prepared to contemplate the supernatural. It is a conclusion entirely consistent with science, he says.
http://www.leightonacademic.com/eutm3content.htm
The google also showed that David W. Swift is a pretty active writer on several topics, if indeed it's the same David W Swift. Also it seems, he's good at it. The book might be worth a glance, surely. 
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Ricky
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 10:05:36 [Permalink]
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| The ID people are guilty of what they accuse advocates of evolution... ignoring the evidence against it, and failing to see the fallacy of their argument. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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welshdean
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 18:42:13 [Permalink]
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"We now know that all living organisms and, indeed, many of their parts considered independently, are unequivocal examples of design without a viable natural explanation" (p. 403). On this amazing note, the author finds himself prepared to contemplate the supernatural. It is a conclusion entirely consistent with science, he says.
So! He is a kook, then!
Filthy, would you really spend some of your 'hard earned' on this shit. You can find the 'same o - same o' on each and every ID site!!
Oh no! I just thought, Filthy, are you turning to the dark side, have you just found out that you are a love child of j. saffarti and d. gish (no caps intended).
I can imagine the conversation, (if George Lucas is reading this, then I swear, any resemblance is coincidental)
DG & JS: Filthy, join us, together we can rule the galaxy.
Luke Filthy: Never, I would see you dead first.
DG & JS: But we are your father Filthy!
Luke Filthy: Nooooooooooo!
(and so forth)
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"Frazier is so ugly he should donate his face to the US Bureau of Wild Life."
"I am America. I am the part you won't recognize, but get used to me. Black, confident, cocky. My name, not yours. My religion, not yours. My goals, my own. Get used to me."
"Service to others is the rent you pay for your room here on earth."
---- Muhammad Ali
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