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 After 400 years, soon a Protestatant minority ?
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filthy
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Posted - 07/23/2004 :  02:06:53  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
If so, no wonder the TY preachers squeal so stridently. But will they ever realize that they are probably responsible for part of the decline?

I wonder how this has affected the membership rosters of the 700 Club and other rabid, fringe organizations. Are they also in decline due to falling member recuiting?


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America's Protestant majority is about to disappear, according to a new study by researchers at the University of Chicago.

Since the pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock nearly 400 years ago, America has been a largely Protestant nation.


http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-prots21.html


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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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verlch
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Posted - 07/27/2004 :  17:50:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
Well, wouldn't suprise me. How old are you filthy??? When you die and arise from the dead, look at your knee, that knee you have will touch the ground as you bow toward your maker, and confess that He is 'Lord of Lords and Host of Hosts' your vioce and tongue will confess and give homage to your 'maker'. And he is not Mother Nature, He created 'Mother Nature'....!!!

So while those that love their maker happen to decrease,why are you exaulting over it??? Doesn't evolution promote homosexuality??? Gods word wonders why we would trade using woman for their natural purpose...and lay with men.

Remember this world is fallen, therefore you would expect to see things that you wonder how God could let it happen...(like evolution...lol..jking...) So don't blame God because something bad happened, it was cause and effect and we are mortal!!!

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Ricky
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Posted - 07/27/2004 :  20:52:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Verlch? Back? Out of hibernation? Oh boy, here we go again. Hold on for the ride guys...

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When you die and arise from the dead, look at your knee, that knee you have will touch the ground as you bow toward your maker, and confess that He is 'Lord of Lords and Host of Hosts' your vioce and tongue will confess and give homage to your 'maker'. And he is not Mother Nature, He created 'Mother Nature'....!!!


"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

Asserting that anything is true without any evidence on it whatsoever is without sense, without reason, and without intellect.

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Doesn't evolution promote homosexuality?


Yes Verlch, evolution, the survival of a species by its fittest members, promotes the absence of reproduction. (This note is for Verlch only (as I'm sure everyone else got it). That was sarcasm.)

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Chippewa
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Posted - 07/28/2004 :  00:04:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch

...When you die and arise from the dead, look at your knee, that knee you have will touch the ground as you bow toward your maker, and confess that He is 'Lord of Lords and Host of Hosts' ...



Actually, upon death, it would probably be more like:

Great maker: "Welcome aboard...and by the way, Julian Jaynes was right, consciousness is not necessary for thinking!"

Dead person: "Really? I was wondering about that."

http://julianjaynessociety.tripod.com/bicameralmind.html
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filthy
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Posted - 07/28/2004 :  00:43:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
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Originally posted by verlch

Well, wouldn't suprise me. How old are you filthy??? When you die and arise from the dead, look at your knee, that knee you have will touch the ground as you bow toward your maker, and confess that He is 'Lord of Lords and Host of Hosts' your vioce and tongue will confess and give homage to your 'maker'. And he is not Mother Nature, He created 'Mother Nature'....!!!

So while those that love their maker happen to decrease,why are you exaulting over it??? Doesn't evolution promote homosexuality??? Gods word wonders why we would trade using woman for their natural purpose...and lay with men.

Remember this world is fallen, therefore you would expect to see things that you wonder how God could let it happen...(like evolution...lol..jking...) So don't blame God because something bad happened, it was cause and effect and we are mortal!!!


I will be 65 in November and have yet to see any evidence of of anyone 'rising from the dead' apart from heroic medical action in the ER. I do not think mine nor anyone eles's knees will be in any danger of coming back to life and getting bent. Dead is dead.

Evolution promotes nothing. It has neither goals nor promises and to suggest that it favors homosexuality is laughable. Boiled down, evolution does no more than modify organisms to fit more successfully into changing enviornments.

Exulting? Not I. I merely post a statement and ask a couple of questions. But I'll say that it's a good thing if more people do more of their own thinking, whatever their beliefs or lack of them.

Did you read the article at all? The gist of it was that Protestants are heading toward becoming a minority in the US. I contend that selling religion as the TV preachers are wont to do -- like it is a used car with sawdust in the crankcase -- is in some small part responsible. Surely you've caught Jerry Falwell's act on the toob. He's like a flea market vendor with a necktie, peddling all sorts of stuff to the faithful. He and his ilk make me glad that I have no faith.

Incidently, I've just read that Falwell is to give the invocation at the GOP convention. I'll refrain comment on it for the moment (with difficulty. I have a bloody sense of humor and poetic justice is the best kind).


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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Dave W.
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Posted - 07/28/2004 :  11:18:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Filthy, the biggest hassle I can see with that article is that Mormons were included with Protestants. Most of the time I've seen religions in the U.S. classified, Christian sects have been splits at least three ways: Protestants, Catholics, and Mormons.

Of course, if you yank the Mormons' 2% out of the "Protestant" category, Protestantism already falls to just 50% of the population.

The same page also cites a Harris Poll from 2000, which claimed that "All Protestants" made up only 49.5% of the population. Including the 1.4% they found who were Mormons makes only 50.9% - and that was four years ago.

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