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bjones
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Posted - 08/21/2001 :  15:45:52  Show Profile Send bjones a Private Message
There has been so much anecdotal evidence of telepathy, but still only anecdotal never the less. I shall propose a test the will really verify it once and for all. First I will start with 2 identical twins (we will call one Marge and the other one Betty) who claim to have telepathic communication with each like feeling each other's pain.
I suggest we put them in separate rooms them randomly put an acupuncture needle in one of the limbs of Marge and Betty is supposed to know which limb the acupuncture needle is in. As there are four limbs to every normal human just blind chance will get it right 25% of the time. If Betty says that she can feel the acupuncture needle in Marge's right arm and that is where it is, then she scores correctly. We will repeat this 100 hundred times for each twin and if they each only score 25 give of take a few then that is evidence that there is no telepathy. But if they each or one of them score around 80 90 or even a perfect score of 100 then that is good evidence of telepathy.
I anticipate it will most probably be around 25 mark and thus no evidence of telepathy.


Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/23/2001 :  09:35:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
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There has been so much anecdotal evidence of telepathy, but still only anecdotal never the less. I shall propose a test the will really verify it once and for all. First I will start with 2 identical twins (we will call one Marge and the other one Betty) who claim to have telepathic communication with each like feeling each other's pain.
I suggest we put them in separate rooms them randomly put an acupuncture needle in one of the limbs of Marge and Betty is supposed to know which limb the acupuncture needle is in. As there are four limbs to every normal human just blind chance will get it right 25% of the time. If Betty says that she can feel the acupuncture needle in Marge's right arm and that is where it is, then she scores correctly. We will repeat this 100 hundred times for each twin and if they each only score 25 give of take a few then that is evidence that there is no telepathy. But if they each or one of them score around 80 90 or even a perfect score of 100 then that is good evidence of telepathy.
I anticipate it will most probably be around 25 mark and thus no evidence of telepathy.






I believe that by poke number 40-50, Marge will smack the living hell out of you. :)

I am also sceptical of telepathy, clairvioance, and clairaudience.
I believe that there was a Saturday night live skit on claims of precognition/telepathic links. "A man at the last minute doesn't board an airplane. The airplane goes on to land normally. Coincidence?"

I hate to put it this way, but even Commander Mood Ring (Counselor Deana Troi from Star Trek, The Next Generation) couldn't read thoughts or specific emotions.



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Trish
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Posted - 08/24/2001 :  15:20:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message
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I hate to put it this way, but even Commander Mood Ring (Counselor Deana Troi from Star Trek, The Next Generation) couldn't read thoughts or specific emotions.


But she was only half Betazoid.

He's YOUR god, they're YOUR rules, YOU burn in hell!
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PhDreamer
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Posted - 08/24/2001 :  22:19:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit PhDreamer's Homepage Send PhDreamer a Private Message
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There has been so much anecdotal evidence of telepathy, but still only anecdotal never the less. I shall propose a test the will really verify it once and for all. First I will start with 2 identical twins (we will call one Marge and the other one Betty) who claim to have telepathic communication with each like feeling each other's pain.
I suggest we put them in separate rooms them randomly put an acupuncture needle in one of the limbs of Marge and Betty is supposed to know which limb the acupuncture needle is in. As there are four limbs to every normal human just blind chance will get it right 25% of the time. If Betty says that she can feel the acupuncture needle in Marge's right arm and that is where it is, then she scores correctly. We will repeat this 100 hundred times for each twin and if they each only score 25 give of take a few then that is evidence that there is no telepathy. But if they each or one of them score around 80 90 or even a perfect score of 100 then that is good evidence of telepathy.
I anticipate it will most probably be around 25 mark and thus no evidence of telepathy.






Oh, you should know by now that any sort of experimental controls upset the chi balance or whatever, preventing ESP from functioning. Besides, few if any of the twin anecdotes involve psychic transmission of physical pain. Most are incidences of temporally shared emotions, which are laughably easy to explain given that identical twins share 100% of their genomes. I know a little about this, as my mother is a twin. They like to make little comments to each other like, "Why did it take you so long to call, I 'sent' you the message to call me last week?" I like to point out to her that if their ESP works with messages, she shouldn't need to make a phone call in the first place. Anyway, I digress, such a test as you propose would be pointless, I think.


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