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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Originally posted by verlch
..... public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.
How about that one!
Great!
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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verlch
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Posted - 12/06/2004 : 00:50:01 [Permalink]
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| Doesn't Atheism strike a cord with you and evolution? Aren't you an atheist? Filthy? |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/06/2004 : 03:00:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Doesn't Atheism strike a cord with you and evolution? Aren't you an atheist? Filthy?
I assume we're talking about this:
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..... public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.
Yes, I am an atheist, and no, it strikes no chord with me at all, because it's mindless blather.
However, there is the thought that no species will survive forever. That would include Christians and atheists as well as Muslims, Buddists, Sardinistas, Republicans, Eskimos, evolution teachers and jack-leg preachers, moonshiners, Democrats, steers, queers, and Britany Speers, Hottentots, and you get the picture.
So, I guess the guy's not entirely full of shit after all. The lion will not lie down with the lamb, but, in due course, will go down with it.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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furshur
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Posted - 12/06/2004 : 06:35:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
..... public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.
How about that one!
If Christianity ends (actually if all religion ends) then what is the point of atheism? The whole idea of mythical beings becomes irrelevant.
Like the others have said - sounds good to me, I'll join up as long as I don't have to go to any stupid meetings or where a fez.
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verlch
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 00:49:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by furshur
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Originally posted by verlch
..... public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.
How about that one!
If Christianity ends (actually if all religion ends) then what is the point of atheism? The whole idea of mythical beings becomes irrelevant.
Like the others have said - sounds good to me, I'll join up as long as I don't have to go to any stupid meetings or where a fez.
Oh you'd be there, jumping up and down on the percieved grave of Christiandom. Slinging your atheist, we evolved from monkeydomville. You have to get your existance from something, otherwise how could you be an atheist? That is the sole reason you align yourself to monkeydomville. BTW the only reason you are an evolutionist is because you choose not to believe you came from intelligent design. Atheists can't have their existance any other way, they have to come from a Godless enviroment to sustain their belief system. So no matter what amount of prophesy or archaeological evidence I present it will not obtain any amount of study or bewilderment. For your 'bewilderment' is caught up in your belief system in your Godless worldview.
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What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Siberia
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 06:01:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Slinging your atheist, we evolved from monkeydomville.
Rather than Mudville? |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 06:15:52 [Permalink]
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How, presicly, is the evolution of primates, including ourselves, atheist? Do you think that chimpanzis should sing hyms, gorrilas and gibbons to hold revivals? Although I'll admit that Jerry Falwell has something on an orangu-tan aspect, do you expect that honorable ape to pontificate upon the morals of others?
(I might regret asking those questions.)
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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furshur
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 06:25:57 [Permalink]
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Rather than Mudville?
I get it.
But then you would be from Ribland, right?
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furshur
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 06:39:01 [Permalink]
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Verlich said
So no matter what amount of prophesy or archaeological evidence I present it will not obtain any amount of study or bewilderment.
I am bewildered that anyone can believe your vague and silly prophesies. I study and learn from the archaeological evidence. The problem is you present archaeological FANTASY, and expect it to be believed as fact.
You wouldn't recognize truth if it hit you in the head with a frying pan, even a caste iron frying pan, that was hot, and full of grease, swung by Barry Bonds, while smothered in 'Flax seed oil'.
This was my initial use of the rolly eyes... I'm so proud.
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Siberia
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 06:48:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by furshur
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Rather than Mudville?
I get it.
But then you would be from Ribland, right?
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"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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verlch
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 11:30:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Siberia
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Originally posted by furshur
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Rather than Mudville?
I get it.
But then you would be from Ribland, right?
Yeah...
Yeah from Ribland with my dignity! You guys can be sons of monkies, I'll be a Son of God!!! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 11:33:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
How, presicly, is the evolution of primates, including ourselves, atheist? Do you think that chimpanzis should sing hyms, gorrilas and gibbons to hold revivals? Although I'll admit that Jerry Falwell has something on an orangu-tan aspect, do you expect that honorable ape to pontificate upon the morals of others?
(I might regret asking those questions.)
You are an atheist first, and to support your atheism you have to believe in evolution. Its the only way for you. That's why you ignore any and all evidence that would suggest evolution false and scripture as the infallible word of the Living God. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 11:43:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
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Originally posted by Siberia
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Originally posted by furshur
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Rather than Mudville?
I get it.
But then you would be from Ribland, right?
Yeah...
Yeah from Ribland with my dignity! You guys can be sons of monkies, I'll be a Son of God!!!
Sorry, I'm a child of the Goddess, spiritually. Physically, I am decended from Hominid apes. I'm actually the son of a Homo Sapien.
(singing: Gorilla my dreams, I search for youuuuuuu.)
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Siberia
SFN Addict
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 12:06:01 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
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Originally posted by filthy
How, presicly, is the evolution of primates, including ourselves, atheist? Do you think that chimpanzis should sing hyms, gorrilas and gibbons to hold revivals? Although I'll admit that Jerry Falwell has something on an orangu-tan aspect, do you expect that honorable ape to pontificate upon the morals of others?
(I might regret asking those questions.)
You are an atheist first, and to support your atheism you have to believe in evolution. Its the only way for you. That's why you ignore any and all evidence that would suggest evolution false and scripture as the infallible word of the Living God.
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"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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furshur
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 14:51:38 [Permalink]
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Verlich wrote:
Yeah from Ribland with my dignity! You guys can be sons of monkies, I'll be a Son of God!!!
So sorry Verlich this is not something you get to choose. You are also a son of a monkey (Actually the monkey and you have a common ancestor, but why quibble).
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