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TG
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Posted - 09/30/2004 :  08:02:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send TG a Private Message
According to Wikipedia, the foundation of the Washington Monument is 36 feet, 10 inches deep, not 111 feet, resulting in a total height of 592 feet, 3 1/8 inches rather than the biblically desirable outcome of exactly 666 feet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument

This will, of course, be ignored by Verlch.
Edited by - TG on 09/30/2004 10:15:50
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 09/30/2004 :  14:13:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by TG
This will, of course, be ignored by Verlch.

Count on it. That guy only see what he wants to see, or what Morton's Demon allow him to see.

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Stargirl
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  17:26:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Stargirl a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by TG

According to Wikipedia, the foundation of the Washington Monument is 36 feet, 10 inches deep, not 111 feet, resulting in a total height of 592 feet, 3 1/8 inches rather than the biblically desirable outcome of exactly 666 feet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument

This will, of course, be ignored by Verlch.



Ah but Verlich is right, even with TG's numbers it still works.

If you multiply the 592 feet by the 3 inches you get 1776.
592 * 3 = 1776
What are the odds on that?

Now multiply the 1776 by the 1/8-inch or 0.125 you get 222.
1776 * 0.125 = 222
Ooh, that's good the Divine number.

But wait, we're not through.
Lastly multiply the 222 by 3, because there are 3 digits in the number 222, (and to get it to come out the way I want) and you get 666.
222 * 3 = 666
Spooky isn't it.

Gotta love playing with numbers.

Oops,edited to change divide 1776 to multiply 1776.

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Edited by - Stargirl on 10/01/2004 17:33:06
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verlch
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  22:19:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Stargirl

quote:
Originally posted by TG

According to Wikipedia, the foundation of the Washington Monument is 36 feet, 10 inches deep, not 111 feet, resulting in a total height of 592 feet, 3 1/8 inches rather than the biblically desirable outcome of exactly 666 feet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument

This will, of course, be ignored by Verlch.



Ah but Verlich is right, even with TG's numbers it still works.

If you multiply the 592 feet by the 3 inches you get 1776.
592 * 3 = 1776
What are the odds on that?

Now multiply the 1776 by the 1/8-inch or 0.125 you get 222.
1776 * 0.125 = 222
Ooh, that?s good the Divine number.

But wait, we?re not through.
Lastly multiply the 222 by 3, because there are 3 digits in the number 222, (and to get it to come out the way I want) and you get 666.
222 * 3 = 666
Spooky isn?t it.

Gotta love playing with numbers.

Oops,edited to change divide 1776 to multiply 1776.

Was going to post this yesterday but we got in a couple of server racks that one of our VP?s ordered because he didn?t like the ?haphazard? way our servers were stacked. So we had to shut down our entire network to move them to the new racks. He even told us which servers he wanted where so that they would appear symmetrical for cripes sakes. Of course he knows absolutely nothing about how any of it works but it looks nice now.




Whatever lady, Its still 555 ft high. That is the number of satan, and man is 666, Jesus is 777 and God is 888. Ever notice that the symbol of God is a circle, ever notice how satan and man carve up that circle? The devil carves a pentagram in a circle and man puts himself. We are truely a devient race.

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  22:45:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
verlch wrote:
quote:
Whatever lady, Its still 555 ft high.
No, it's not. It's 555.427083 feet tall.

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  22:51:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch
Whatever lady, Its still 555 ft high.


This is the closest I've even seen Verlch come to admitting an error. It's subtle, but the "still" means that on some level he's accepted that the 666 ft. figure is wrong.

Of course, this new data has absolutely no impact on his opinion that the monument is really a commemoration to the Dark Prince, but it does at least demonstrate that he is capable of absorbing new information.


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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 10/01/2004 22:52:48
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verlch
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  23:43:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
Well, that's great, but it still could be the number of man, somehow the number of Lucifer (satan, angel of Light) is more fitting!!

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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R.Wreck
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Posted - 10/02/2004 :  05:20:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
quote:
Whatever lady, Its still 555 ft high. That is the number of satan, and man is 666, Jesus is 777 and God is 888


Just in case you're interested in the rest of the list:

111 chipmunks
222 Omaha
333 Spongebob Squarepants
444 The Osmond family
999 Satan's brother, Stan.

Honestly, verlch, where do you get this stuff from?

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filthy
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Posted - 10/02/2004 :  06:03:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message

This is not the most preposterous thing verlch has come up with, but it's in the same league.

quote:
Whatever lady, Its still 555 ft high. That is the number of satan, and man is 666, Jesus is 777 and God is 888. Ever notice that the symbol of God is a circle, ever notice how satan and man carve up that circle? The devil carves a pentagram in a circle and man puts himself. We are truely a devient race.

Of course, this is all Christian malarkey, although I don't remember reading of it in the Bible. But perhaps my memory fails. But what about the Buddhists, Muslims, Hindi, and so forth. Do they too, cut up the circle? Does pi equal three?

Here's something on the Bible Code from the skeptic's Dictionary:

quote:
The Bible (or Torah) Code
The Bible (or Torah) Code is a code alleged embedded in the Bible by God. The code is revealed by searching for equidistant letter sequences (ELS). For example, start with any letter ("L") and read every nth letter ("N") thereafter in the book, not counting spaces. If an entire book such as Genesis is searched, the result is a long string of letters. Using different values for L and N, one can generate many strings of letters. Imagine wrapping the string of letters around a cylinder in such a way that all the letters can be displayed. Flatten the cylinder to reveal several rows with columns of equal length, except perhaps the last column, which might be shorter than all the rest. Now search for meaningful names in proximity to dates. Search horizontally, vertically, diagonally, any which way.


http://skepdic.com/bibcode.html

Perhaps this is where verlch gets his numerology silliness.



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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 10/02/2004 :  16:17:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch
Whatever lady, Its still 555 ft high. That is the number of satan, and man is 666, Jesus is 777 and God is 888. Ever notice that the symbol of God is a circle, ever notice how satan and man carve up that circle? The devil carves a pentagram in a circle and man puts himself. We are truely a devient race.

Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus is 777 and God is 888?

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Siberia
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Posted - 10/02/2004 :  16:53:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
And where does it say the pentagram is evil?

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
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Dave W.
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Q: Everyone knows about the meaning of 666, but what about 668?...

A: It's the neighbor of the Beast.

And yeah, 667 is the address across the street. And 766 is one block over.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/04/2004 :  06:20:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by R.Wreck

quote:
Whatever lady, Its still 555 ft high. That is the number of satan, and man is 666, Jesus is 777 and God is 888


Just in case you're interested in the rest of the list:

111 chipmunks
222 Omaha
333 Spongebob Squarepants
444 The Osmond family
999 Satan's brother, Stan.

Honestly, verlch, where do you get this stuff from?



I thought 999 was Phil, Prince of Insufficent Light, Lord of Heck, brother to both the pointy-haired boss and Satan. Punisher of minor societal infractions.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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Edited by - Valiant Dancer on 10/04/2004 06:33:33
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/04/2004 :  06:32:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

And where does it say the pentagram is evil?



Since Wicca uses a pentacle to represent the five elements as parts of a whole, the evangelical movement has assumed all pentacles have sinister intent. For a full explaination of his absurd position, one must read the "Malleous Malficarium" (circa 1486). Pentacles which has a point of the inscribed pentagram upwards and two down indicate Wicca or some Neopaganism sub-sects. Pentacles which have the point down and a horned God/goat head inscribed in the pentagram tend to be Satanist in origin, although Anton LeVey's Church of Satan tends to use an inverted cross instead of the point down pentacle.

The Bible makes no reference to pentacles or pentagrams.

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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 10/04/2004 :  06:44:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by R.Wreck
Just in case you're interested in the rest of the list:

111 chipmunks
222 Omaha
333 Spongebob Squarepants
444 The Osmond family
999 Satan's brother, Stan.



And let's not hasten to add:

000 Holy Spirit
007 Bond, James Bond
123 Jackson family
033 Larry Bird

There are probably others, but I've forgotten exactly where in the Bible they have this listed. Perhaps verlch could remind us...
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