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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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 Posted - 09/27/2004 : 07:10:55
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 This weekend I went to the theaters to see Farenheit 9/11.
It was good and it was scary. Not scary in any Hitchcock sense, but it shows what might be the motivation behind the current American President's work.
Conservatives, Christians and other Bush supporters will probably yell foul (have they? I haven't heard much about that, though I remember the fuzz ob the Rapture Ready about Bowling for Columbine).
 Anyway, much of the stuff in Farenheit 9/11 can also be found in the book "Dude, where's my country" where most of the facts are supported with references.
Both the book and the film get my recommendation. Go see/read it.
[Edited to add links - Dave W.]
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2004 : 08:49:02 [Permalink]
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| Yeah, Moore is getting picked on bigtime by the bushies.... it's pretty funny. They all act so outraged. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 10/25/2004 : 09:10:12 [Permalink]
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Moore is more of a target than Kerry now, they DISPISE him and act like hes never spoken the truth in his life, but to get them to detail what exactly he lied about is much harder.
My favorite is when he went to the russian missle complex and knocked on the door and asked them not to point missles at flint, man I thought they were gonna shoot him, "No nukeski flintski!". That or when he put 30 cars on the lawn of the Viper alarms owner and set them all off in the middle of the night.
Be sure to get ahold of a copy of his TV shows, TV Nation is the only one available ATM I think, but its priceless, Black ceerleaders at the Arian Nations compound doing 'We love You' cheers! |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2004 : 09:29:35 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
This weekend I went to the theaters to see Farenheit 9/11.
It was good and it was scary. Not scary in any Hitchcock sense, but it shows what might be the motivation behind the current American President's work.
Conservatives, Christians and other Bush supporters will probably yell foul (have they? I haven't heard much about that, though I remember the fuzz ob the Rapture Ready about Bowling for Columbine).
Anyway, much of the stuff in Farenheit 9/11 can also be found in the book "Dude, where's my country" where most of the facts are supported with references.
Both the book and the film get my recommendation. Go see/read it.
There is some commentary which I think goes beyond the pale in "Farenheit 9/11" such as suggesting that the Bin Ladens being shipped out of the country as being linked to the Bush-Bin Laden company dealings. It is more likely that the flight was allowed by a request by the Saudi government to the American government. None of the Bin Ladens on the flight had anything to do with September 11th.
The facts are there, the commentary which connect the two are sometimes suspect. I think that lessens the impact of the film than if he had stuck to the real outrages of this adminstration.
I'd suggest Senator Robert C. Byrd's "Losing America: Confronting a Reckless and Arrogant Presidency". Really good read with sources.
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Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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| Edited by - Valiant Dancer on 10/25/2004 09:34:12 |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5311 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2004 : 09:48:01 [Permalink]
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| I'd like to get TV Nation. I have all the episodes of "The Awful Truth." |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
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Robert Hunter
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Dik-Dik Van Dik
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 09:13:56 [Permalink]
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| i found the second half of the film to be bogged down in sentiment |
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tomk80
SFN Regular
Netherlands
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 14:59:10 [Permalink]
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I saw the film when it came out in America, in Boston, about a week after I had visited ground zero. The friends I was with all had some friends are family close to the disaster when it struck. Only after seeing this did I truly realize how big the impact of 9/11 was.
As a documentary I thought it was a bit over the top. I think there were a number of vague elegations in it that didn't really make sense and this weakened it substantially. However, the Bushbashing was fun, for a dutch guy like me  |
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`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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