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furshur
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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  09:47:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
Maybe ccdi9 is actually ice-9. Could be the Biological Creationist is mixing up Vonnegut with one of her biology text books.

If she has a masters in biology and doesn't accept evolution - anything is possible.


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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  11:08:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Maverick wrote:
quote:
...and the morons that participate on that forum are all jokes.
Well, except for Ricky and Peptide.

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Maverick
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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  11:55:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Maverick a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Maverick wrote:
quote:
...and the morons that participate on that forum are all jokes.
Well, except for Ricky and Peptide.


Well, obviously :) But non-creationist views don't seem to be terribly popular over there. Lots of deleted threads.

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Dude
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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  14:14:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
Lots of deleted threads


tk deletes anything that doesn't agree with his own little twisted worldview.

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Dude
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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  14:30:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
CDC19 is a yeast gene.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  15:45:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Maverick wrote:
quote:
...and the morons that participate on that forum are all jokes.
Well, except for Ricky and Peptide.

Aren't you forgetting someone, huh? HUH?
(Ofcourse, my post was first secretly edited by a moderator, then finally removed)

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Plyss
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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  15:53:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Plyss a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

CDC19 is a yeast gene.



However, none of the 37 articles that pubmed returns on "cdc19" as a query seems to be relevant to a "a biomechanic mechanism that totally would prevent gradualistic evolution".

Also, we don't know if CDC19 is actually the mysterious ccdi9 that tksgurl was referring to.

Incidentally, the gene products primary accession number is P40377 and its SWISSPROT entryname is MCM2_SCHPO, for those who wish to examine this gene further.
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Dude
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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  21:23:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Well, ccdi9 returns nothing on any search engine or academic database I have access to. So it's either made up, mispelled, a mistake, or unpublished.

So who knows? I tend to think she's just full of crap.

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Plyss
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Netherlands
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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  23:24:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Plyss a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude
So who knows? I tend to think she's just full of crap.



Seconded ;)

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  23:40:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Plyss

quote:
Originally posted by Dude
So who knows? I tend to think she's just full of crap.



Seconded ;)

Indeed...

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/06/2004 :  08:25:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Dude, check out what kevkev was saying about ccdi9 in a post I wrote in this SFN thread.

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Dude
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Posted - 10/06/2004 :  19:20:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
kevkev isn't saying anything about ccdi9. You have it Dave_W when you said what he presented is something akin to 3+4=7, therefore evolution is refuted.

Without a specific context and definition the whole "coding sequence" thing is meaningless.

They need to specify if "ccdi9" is a gene, a protien, an RNA sequence, or whatever. Then they need to identify the exact biochemical role, explained in relation to whatever metabolic (or cellular function) pathway it is involved in.

If it's some sort of "rule" as one of them hinted at, they need to provide a detailed (or link to it atleast) explanation and descrition of the "rule".

And then, they need to cite some published work that describes "ccdi9".


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-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/06/2004 :  20:19:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Mmmmm. Subtlety isn't my strong point. I was trying to hint that you discuss ccdi9, Dude, in the other thread, to try to keep the posts more "together." No big deal, though.

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Dude
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Posted - 10/06/2004 :  22:02:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
bah.... so just move my posts :) I don't mind.

But yeah, I agree that the ccdi9 topic is getting spread out. Shoot, it might be worthy of it's own thread....

Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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