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Dude
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Posted - 10/06/2004 :  22:11:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
The Kerry campaign sent emails (with links to all the big news sites post debate opinion polls) to everyone on their list, and aksed them to vote in them.

Might have skewed the results a little, but I'm sure the republicans did the same.

Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Dude
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USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2004 :  22:14:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

quote:
Originally posted by Dude

...even those liberal commies at CNN and MSNBC...


You're kidding, right?





rofl... yes. Sarcasm doesn't convey well, I'm afraid, in forums.

Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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beskeptigal
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USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2004 :  01:52:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

The Kerry campaign sent emails (with links to all the big news sites post debate opinion polls) to everyone on their list, and aksed them to vote in them.

Might have skewed the results a little, but I'm sure the republicans did the same.

Are you sure? I'm on moveon.org's and the democratic party's list serv and I didn't get such an e-mail. If Kerry had sent one out, moveon would have forwarded it to me.
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Dude
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Posted - 10/07/2004 :  07:11:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
I'll post the text of the email I recieved from the Kerry campaign when I get home this evening(the email is saved on my home system). It has links to all the major news organizations that have those instant opinion polls, and requests people to go vote in them.

Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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filthy
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Posted - 10/07/2004 :  07:59:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

I'll post the text of the email I recieved from the Kerry campaign when I get home this evening(the email is saved on my home system). It has links to all the major news organizations that have those instant opinion polls, and requests people to go vote in them.

My son-in-law got one after the Kerry debate and he passed it on to me. But he's a former official in the NC Democrat Party, so his name is on all the lists.


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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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Dude
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Posted - 10/07/2004 :  15:39:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
It's a mass e-mailing, so I doubt that I am breaking any copy-right rules by postng the full (and unaltered) text here. If I'm wrong, please feel free to nix it Dave_w.

quote:
Dear Supporter,

We're two for two. Tonight, in Cleveland, John Edwards showed real strength and conviction -- he was in command of the facts and in control of the debate and a powerful advocate for John Kerry. The American people saw John Edwards as somebody who is ready, if neccessary, to be president of the United States.

Dick Cheney is totally out of touch with reality in Iraq and totally out of touch with the struggles of the middle class. This is nothing new to a man with a lifetime record of protecting the powerful and well-connected. He came across as smug, arrogant, mean and defensive -- but his trademark distortions and scare tactics didn't work. John Edwards refused to let him play the politics of fear and forced Dick Cheney to confront his administration's record of failure.

Americans are tired of growls and scowls from our leaders, and John Edwards and John Kerry offer America hope and optimism.

The Bush-Cheney campaign is already trying to spin the debate. I am here in Cleveland, right now, working to make sure that doesn't happen. Tonight my job is going to be a lot easier than my Republican counterparts for three reasons. First, John Edwards is our candidate for vice president, second Dick Cheney is theirs, and third I know that you are going to join me in this critical fight.

Here is what you can do:

1) Vote in online polls

The Bush-Cheney campaign has asked their supporters to vote in online polls. Don't let them distort the polls like they distort their record.
CNN
http://www.cnn.com

MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com

ABC News
http://www.abcnews.com

CBS
http://www.cbsnews.com

Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com

Also check you local newspaper and TV station's websites for online polls.

2) Call into talk radio

http://volunteer.johnkerry.com/speakout
3) Write local newspapers

http://volunteer.johnkerry.com/speakout
John Edwards clearly won on stage tonight -- let's make sure he wins against unrelenting Republican spin.

Sincerely,

Joe Lockhart
Senior Advisor



Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2004 :  17:12:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
The son-in-law got the same except worded differently and under a different signature.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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ktesibios
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USA
505 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2004 :  17:38:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ktesibios a Private Message
That's pretty much the same e-mail I got. I'm on the Kerry campaign list and Moveon.org's, since I've contributed to both. I don't recall Moveon sending me anything about the online polls.

Steve Gilliard (Steve's news blog) did urge his readers to vote in most of the online polls about the first Presidential debate, but that's not a mailing list.

WTF. The wingnuts have been organizing to skew online polls for a long time now. Given that a poll with a self-selected sample is really useless as anything but a PR tool, I reckon that turnabout really is fair play.

"The Republican agenda is to turn the United States into a third-world shithole." -P.Z.Myers
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