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Ricky
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Posted - 10/09/2004 :  00:32:02  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
I was curious if anyone knew, as I didn't see it in the articles that have been listed in the last two Skeptic Reports, how much does it cost for SpaceShipOne to complete a trip? Basically, what is the cost of fuel and matenience?

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Dude
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Posted - 10/09/2004 :  18:33:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Dunno.... but a ticket for a ride currently costs about $200K US.

Rutan speculates that a trip to space will cost what an average airline ticket costs within 10-15 years.

Personally, I think they are overlooking the possibilities of rapid intercontinental flight. LA to Hong-Kong in two hours anyone? Seems like a logical extension of the concept and technology to me.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/09/2004 :  18:38:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
I was under the impression that the $200K ticket price was for the upcoming five-seater model. In which case: four passengers at $200K a piece would mean $800K for fuel, launch, maintenance, salaries and some ammount of profit.

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Ricky
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Posted - 10/09/2004 :  18:45:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Rutan speculates that a trip to space will cost what an average airline ticket costs within 10-15 years.


I take this as the same speculation that we would be living on the moon that took place back in the 1950's. But then again, I'm not quite sure, technology has been improving seemingly exponentially. Give me 15 years to make up my mind, then I will tell you what I think about this speculation

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Dude
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Posted - 10/10/2004 :  14:31:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
We could have been living on the moon by now if we had chosen to do so. The major difference in this type of speculation is rather obvious.... there is a potential profit to be made. Which was not the case back in the 50's when the government was the sole player in space technologies.

I'd say Rutan is correct, as long as the potential to make money is there.

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Siberia
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Posted - 10/10/2004 :  15:03:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
We could have been, lest the war(s) didn't take so much of our energy.

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Ricky
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Posted - 10/10/2004 :  15:18:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
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We could have been, lest the war(s) didn't take so much of our energy.


I think wars, while being mostly destructive, have also furthered our pursuits in the sciences. When ever a military needs something: faster travel, better communications, stronger weapons, better defenses, etc, they turn to science to find an answer. A lot of money has been invested into science for the sake of an army, which in turn has found use for the general public.

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Siberia
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Posted - 10/10/2004 :  15:31:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
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I think wars, while being mostly destructive, have also furthered our pursuits in the sciences. When ever a military needs something: faster travel, better communications, stronger weapons, better defenses, etc, they turn to science to find an answer. A lot of money has been invested into science for the sake of an army, which in turn has found use for the general public.


After all, wasn't the WWII who fueled what would be the computer? Yes, it does fuel a lot of scientific advance - always did. In fact, where a possible colonization of space is concerned, I believe the end of the Cold War was a great blow. The space research lost its greatest fuel - the competition of two powerful nations. Not to say things were better then, though, than they're now.

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Dude
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Posted - 10/10/2004 :  20:38:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
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A lot of money has been invested into science for the sake of an army, which in turn has found use for the general public.


The Internet (started as a DARPA project to create a distributed communications network not vulnerable to a single enemy attack)

The integrated circiut.

There is a LONG list of technology that was originally researched for military use, that now we use everyday without even thinking about it.

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Siberia
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Posted - 10/11/2004 :  06:37:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
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Originally posted by Dude

quote:
A lot of money has been invested into science for the sake of an army, which in turn has found use for the general public.


The Internet (started as a DARPA project to create a distributed communications network not vulnerable to a single enemy attack)

The integrated circiut.

There is a LONG list of technology that was originally researched for military use, that now we use everyday without even thinking about it.



Exactly. And many researches who were glued on a path to serve war purposes. In fact, what I was trying to say at first was that the end of Cold War deaccelerated a bit the space technology race ;) My bad, didn't word it correctly.

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