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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 11/15/2004 : 18:16:55 [Permalink]
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hijack # 14 in this thread....
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Actually, Jesus' resurrection is the lynchpin of the faith. The resurrection indicates the sacrifice was acceptable. If someone finds his tomb and his remains in it. Then the premise of the faith falters. Particularly since he said he would rise from the dead. Oddly enough this would also effect Islam. In Islam, they too believe Christ will return. They don't believe he was crucified rather someone took his place
How about some historical evidence that Jesus actually lived in the time/place christians say he did? |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/15/2004 : 20:20:49 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rubicon95
Actually, Jesus' resurrection is the lynchpin of the faith.
You're absolutely correct. Sloppy self-editing on my part. Thanks for the correction. |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 11/15/2004 : 20:41:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
All I have to do is look at the calendar and find the exact year Jesus was born! Exactly 2004 years ago!
You're kidding, right, verlch? It's been well documented that the chonology of Jesus' birth is wrong, and that if the Gospels are to be trusted at all, he was born between 4 and 6 BC. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/15/2004 : 20:48:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
All I have to do is look at the calendar and find the exact year Jesus was born! Exactly 2004 years ago!
So what? Jesus' birth year isn't Scripturally important at all. What's important is His resurrection (and secondarily the manner of His death). That Jesus was born doesn't prove that he died on the cross and was reborn through God's Grace three days later. |
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furshur
SFN Regular
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Posted - 11/16/2004 : 07:21:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
All I have to do is look at the calendar and find the exact year Jesus was born! Exactly 2004 years ago!
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You're kidding, right, verlch? It's been well documented that the chonology of Jesus' birth is wrong, and that if the Gospels are to be trusted at all, he was born between 4 and 6 BC.
Of course Verlich also thinks that Jesus was born on Dec. 25th 0000. His poor mind would short-out if he knew that Dec. 25th was picked as Jesus' birth by the church because it was the date of a great pagan festival.
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Starman
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Posted - 11/16/2004 : 08:22:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by furshur
Of course Verlich also thinks that Jesus was born on Dec. 25th 0000. His poor mind would short out if he knew that Dec. 25th was picked as Jesus' birth to because it was the date of a great pagan festival.
Easy!
Satan  picked the date of baby Jesus future birthday for his pagan festival to fool us... |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 11/16/2004 : 08:44:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Starman
Easy!
Satan picked the date of baby Jesus future birthday for his pagan festival to fool us...
Damn that Satan! He's so damned clever! I mean, who'd have thunk so far in advance to trick us with things like pagan holidays and fossil records! Honestly-- if I were to worship a supernatural being, I almost think he'd be preferrable to Yahweh. I kind of like rooting for the underdog... |
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Rubicon95
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 11/16/2004 : 09:20:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
hijack # 14 in this thread....
Yeah ain't that a kick. We go from School Board, to Creation VS. Evolution, to theology and now to did Jesus exist.
Is your question #14 in the hijack or #15? 
Back to what the school board did.
Do you think that education should be run at the local level or national level or national level with a standard?
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/16/2004 : 09:44:19 [Permalink]
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Hey fuck it! Who gives a dysenteric rat's ass what the OP is? If this is going to become another verlch thread, I'm all for it, in spades!
Nobody believes it, but before he started this hit & run crap, he is directly responsible for a lot of really good info put forth in quite a short time, here in our tiny backwater of the web.
Bring it on, Big V! We loves ya, bro 'cause you makes us reference and study! With these, always enters a little more knowledge, both pro and con.
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