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the_ignored
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 Posted - 10/31/2004 : 20:03:56
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These two articles:
New York Times and The Godly Must Be Crazy.
Overexaggerated, or truth?
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
 Posted - 10/31/2004 : 20:38:18 [Permalink]
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| Hard to tell, really just from two data points. But a third would be the woman I heard on NPR a few weeks ago who said that she thought people should quit voting for who they want to be President, and instead vote for the candidate that God wants to be President (with the clear implication that this year, it's Bush). How she knows who God wants in the job, I couldn't say. |
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Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2004 : 21:30:38 [Permalink]
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| The grist article is well written. I agree with a majority of the points made, and I didn't know that there were 231 legislators with fundie leanings. Scary. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/01/2004 : 13:59:02 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dude
The grist article is well written. I agree with a majority of the points made, and I didn't know that there were 231 legislators with fundie leanings. Scary.
Sounds like about the number of Republicans rather than the number of fundies. I think the judgment is probably based on a couple of positions, anti-abortion, anti-gay rights, abstinence only education, and OK to school prayer, 'God' in the pledge, and the ten commandments plastered everywhere.
Come to think of it, that is a bit scary. |
| Edited by - beskeptigal on 11/01/2004 13:59:52 |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2004 : 20:39:10 [Permalink]
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| If it were simply the number of republicans the number would be higher. They have a majority in the House and Senate currently, so that would mean over 300. (can't remember exactly how many seats in the house.... 531?, bah... to lazy to look it up :P ) |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2004 : 22:20:18 [Permalink]
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Ok, so atleast 267 then, if they were just counting republicans.
The religious extremists have snuck into office by playing the role of moderates. It's undeniable that they, as a whole, are highly motivated and well funded.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2004 : 22:28:56 [Permalink]
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[b]Dude[b] wrote:quote:
The religious extremists have snuck into office by playing the role of moderates.
Here's an interesting question (which may deserve its own thread): can a Congressperson (or President) be impeached for making campaign promises which he/she has no intention of acting upon after gaining office? I mean, if these extremists have pretended to be moderates, it's more than likely that they've lied about something or other during their campaigns (for example, claiming to want to limit abortion in small ways, while actually intending to prohibit it entirely). Is such a situation - if legally demonstrable - an impeachable offense?
If it isn't, then to my mind it should be. A person is elected based upon their perceived ability to govern as a representative of their constituency. If they defraud the citizens in order to win office, shouldn't that be grounds to boot them out? |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/01/2004 : 23:22:30 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
If it isn't, then to my mind it should be. A person is elected based upon their perceived ability to govern as a representative of their constituency. If they defraud the citizens in order to win office, shouldn't that be grounds to boot them out?
Good question, Dave. I think that's essentially what a recall is, though I'm pretty sure only some states have legislation on them. Going back to the California fiasco, I seem to remember a discussion on NPR about how laws vary from state to state, with some allowing for a recall vote if a certain number of signatures are acquired, some only under specific circumstances, and some with no recall measures in place at all. As far as I know, there is no way for the citizenry to recall a president. Whether congress is allowed to impeach a president on such grounds, I don't know.
P.S. Exaggeration or not, articles like that scare the shit out of me.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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| Edited by - H. Humbert on 11/01/2004 23:24:36 |
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