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Starman
SFN Regular

Sweden
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Posted - 11/03/2004 :  05:38:50  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
Two new tracts: Squatters & Little Bride.

This time our brother in Christ explain the natures of Islam and the conflict in Palestine.

Hardly future classics but it always interesting to visit an other reality.

"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
-- Terry Jones

tomk80
SFN Regular

Netherlands
1278 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2004 :  06:01:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
I especially liked the 'little bride'. 'Squatters' wasn't that great IMO. I especially liked how they totally ignore cruelty in the bible but criticize cruelty in qur'an.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2004 :  07:36:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tomk80

I especially liked the 'little bride'. 'Squatters' wasn't that great IMO. I especially liked how they totally ignore cruelty in the bible but criticize cruelty in qur'an.



More contraditions though-- in the 'Little Bride' the girl suggests that Mohammed is a liar because some such book says that Mohammed claimed that Adam was 90 feet tall. One of the little girls cries "that's a lie!" But it isn't a lie that he lived to be hundreds of years old? The little Christian girl also seems to be miffed that Mohammed had multiple wives and slaves, but the whole damned Bible features various heroes doing such things!

Also, they rehash the old Allah-is-the-Moon-God thing. I don't know much about the religion of late pre-Islamic Middle East-- I need to do more reading on that. Still, the easy counter is Yahweh-is-the-Storm-God and be done with it...
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tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 11/03/2004 :  07:45:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
Which makes not all too surprising that some of the most fervent collectors of Jack Chick tracts are to be found amongst the atheists.
I remember a thread on christianforums where the Chick tracts were brought up. Most christians didn't like them one bit (especially the moderate ones). Even the fundies weren't especially hyped about them. The atheists on the other hand...

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 11/03/2004 :  08:03:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
I can't speak for the believers, but I personally love Chick tracts. They are so preposterous and it brings a little joy into my day to view the works of someone even crazier than myself.

Is it my imagination, or has his art taken a turn for the better? It was getting pretty dismal for a while there.


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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 11/03/2004 :  08:06:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
... wait.
Is that supposed to be pro or counter the Bible? I had a good chuckle when they called the poor, unsuspecting Russians and Chinese people into the war.

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

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Paulos23
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USA
446 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2004 :  08:29:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message
I remember getting the one of these about the evils of role-playing when I was younger. I had a good laugh about it because I knew it was just bunk since I was playing D&D with friends at the time.

Then in collage I ran into a group of people that believed every word in one of these things. That scared the shit out of me, not that people wrote this stuff, but people believed it without a whole lot of prof. It shook my faith in the average intellingence of my fellow human.

I still get queazy when I see one of these things.

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Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
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satans_mom
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USA
148 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2004 :  09:25:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send satans_mom an AOL message  Send satans_mom a Yahoo! Message Send satans_mom a Private Message
At first, when I was reading these tracts, I felt as if I were reading a spoof of the chick tracts. It doesn't make any sense that these tracts actually defaced God and mocked] Christianity, until I saw the validity of the website. Maybe these fools do not see this the same way as I, but I certainly understand what all of you are saying about the tracts' hilarity. I kept every tract I was given, but as so far as being a fervent collector, they all have seem to have gotten lost...

Yo mama's so fat, she's on both sides of the family.

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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2004 :  10:19:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
filthy wrote:
quote:
Is it my imagination, or has his art taken a turn for the better? It was getting pretty dismal for a while there.
It is my understanding that Chick himself hasn't drawn a tract in three years or so. In the words of someone on the Web, he just "calls them in."

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Valiant Dancer
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USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2004 :  11:41:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Starman

Two new tracts: Squatters & Little Bride.

This time our brother in Christ explain the natures of Islam and the conflict in Palestine.

Hardly future classics but it always interesting to visit an other reality.



Little Bride has more of the same bullcrap about Mohammed. Claims of a pedophile which are based on one line in a Hadith considered incomplete and invalid.

Squatters is a complete farce considering it's the old rehashed accusations against the Catholic church and ignores the fact that "Bible believing Christians" didn't exist before the Prodestant Reformation in the 1500's.

Chick pisses me off sometimes with his twisting of religious texts to fit an invalid premise.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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Siberia
SFN Addict

Brazil
2322 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2004 :  12:31:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
Oh, come on.
We ALL know roleplaying's evil...
And to think, I actually read the guy's name Jack Shit on the first time...

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2004 :  13:55:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

filthy wrote:
quote:
Is it my imagination, or has his art taken a turn for the better? It was getting pretty dismal for a while there.
It is my understanding that Chick himself hasn't drawn a tract in three years or so. In the words of someone on the Web, he just "calls them in."

Has he not? I should pay more attention, I suppose.

I don't collect 'em. I just get a chuckle out of 'em when I happen to stumble across 'em.

At least the hero in Little Bride, in spite of being monocular, doesn't look like a '50s vintage porn star, as did 'Bob'.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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and Crypto-Communist!

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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2004 :  14:20:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
Anyone else notice how they slipped in a reference to terrorism in the Little Bride when the muslim mother calls the boy away because they "have to go to the airport?" Or am I reading to much into it?


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

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Siberia
SFN Addict

Brazil
2322 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2004 :  15:14:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
Man.
He calls Israel's family dysfunctional, and Moses was stuck with all those pesky slaves...

Weird, weird fundie.

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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