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H. Humbert
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And no laws are in place to keep proselytizers out of your inbox.
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E-mail recipients are increasingly being offered religious salvation through the power of spam, according to security company MessageLabs.
The antispam company has intercepted a large number of spiritual e-mails in the last month. The company says the e-mails are legal because they don't plug products, just religious ideals.
Seriously, for a country that purportedly allows for the freedom to believe in (or not) whatever religion you choose, I have hear about Christian fundamentalists trying to convert me WAY too much.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
Edited by - H. Humbert on 11/20/2004 00:43:41
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Dave W.
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/20/2004 : 00:44:53 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Well, it'd be different if it were the government were stuffing people's inboxes with religious spam.
Of course you're right, though perhaps that won't be too far away. Who's to say the spammers didn't get their funds through some "faith-based initiative." |
"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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verlch
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Posted - 11/24/2004 : 19:00:44 [Permalink]
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| I get pissed to when I have to open a NG and here about evolution all day long. Or watch discovery and see how the learned men of the earth are married to evolution. Kinda sucks both ways huh? |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/24/2004 : 19:03:46 [Permalink]
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| Except that you don't have to go to any newsgroups or watch the Discovery channel. Some of us have to open our email inboxes, though, so it's your attempted analogy that kinda sucks. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/24/2004 : 19:03:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
I get pissed to when I have to open a NG and here about evolution all day long. Or watch discovery and see how the learned men of the earth are married to evolution. Kinda sucks both ways huh?
Well, the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from facts and reality.
If an open discussion of science is bothersome to you, you might consider moving to the middle east where Muslim clerics have all but succeeded in surpressing any science which conflicts with their creation myth. You'd fit right in.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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Ricky
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/24/2004 : 23:26:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
But you must remember that freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom from hearing about religion. It doesn't mean that news channels can't report about religion, and it doesn't mean that someone can't send you an email about religion either.
I know, I was just venting. They don't have to deal with these zealots in Europe. Why does my country have to be fundy central? It just pisses me off.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
| Edited by - H. Humbert on 11/24/2004 23:26:50 |
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Ricky
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/25/2004 : 01:01:43 [Permalink]
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The problem is no longer a north/south problem. It's one of widespread ignorance, poor education, and conscience-free conmen who take advantage of people who fall into the first two categories.
If you THINK about it for a minute, how hard would it be to teach people the basics of critical thinking? It's not hard, unless you have to change your thinking patterns from something else first.
It really does seem as if the evangelical fundamentalists have been so hard at work teaching their line, and running their con, that the thinking people of this country are outnumbered. Then I think about how close the last election really was (only 3%) and realize that they only have a slight majority. There are, literally, millions of people who don't fall for the con. Maybe there is some hope that we can win our majority back, and in the process win our country back, from the fundies.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/25/2004 : 05:07:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
I get pissed to when I have to open a NG and here about evolution all day long. Or watch discovery and see how the learned men of the earth are married to evolution. Kinda sucks both ways huh?
I didn't know programs about evolution asked you to join in at the end. |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
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Posted - 11/25/2004 : 14:21:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by beskeptigal
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Originally posted by verlch
I get pissed to when I have to open a NG and here about evolution all day long. Or watch discovery and see how the learned men of the earth are married to evolution. Kinda sucks both ways huh?
I didn't know programs about evolution asked you to join in at the end.
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"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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moakley
SFN Regular
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Posted - 11/25/2004 : 15:08:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
I get pissed to when I have to open a NG and here about evolution all day long. Or watch discovery and see how the learned men of the earth are married to evolution. Kinda sucks both ways huh?
Pity, that you just do not understand that evolution does not rely on people believing it. Evolution is well supported by an ever growing body of evidence. Where as your creation model has no supporting evidence. Therefore, the need for belief (faith) is critical. And as it has been shown here and elsewhere belief without evidence is irrational and limitless.
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Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/25/2004 : 15:42:00 [Permalink]
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A little off topic, but not very much -- apologies anyway...
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During his November 21 pre-Thanksgiving sermon, Reverend Jerry Falwell, Moral Majority founder and national chairman of the Faith and Values Coalition, encouraged his audience to "praise the Lord" at Thanksgiving for "alternative news media" sources such as FOX News Channel, Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh, which he said are "telling the truth."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200411240002
Lying, ignorant scumbag.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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