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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
 Posted - 11/27/2004 : 21:58:34
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Poll Question:
[Please note, this poll was suggested by Chippewa - minor edits have been made.]
Here’s a poll – what do you think? (This hasn’t been in the news recently, but it’s likely worth a poll.)
Porter Goss’s purges at the CIA were designed along the following:The "Yeah, Right" scenario: Eliminate weak analysis. Strengthen intelligence gathering abilities. Stop leaks.
The "Do As I Say" scenario: Redirect the CIA to be ideologically inline with the Bush administration.
The "But Where’s Bin Laden?" scenario: This is "Do as I say" plus: Provide intelligence interpretations that support justification for future wars.
The "Nightmare" scenario: CIA as ideological-political surveillance & enforcement organization.
The "You’re not Quite Right" scenario: Am I missing something? If so, please explain in a post. Please select below:
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| Results: |
| Yeah, Right |
 [7%] |
1 vote |
| Do As I Say |
[36%] |
5 votes |
| But Where's Bin Laden? |
[36%] |
5 votes |
| Nightmare |
[21%] |
3 votes |
| You're not Quite Right |
[0%] |
0 votes |
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Poll Status:
Locked »» |
Total Votes: 14 counted »» |
Last Vote:
12/05/2004 06:48:09 |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
 Posted - 11/27/2004 : 22:21:26 [Permalink]
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I'm of the opinion that the Bush administration had clear objectives before receiving any intelligence to justify the postition (or maybe based on old intelligence) and all but mandated that only intellligence which confirmed their suppositions be presented.
That isn't to say the intelligence wasn't convincing once it had been compiled, but rather that it was convincing because of what was omitted (and in my opinion, produced in a political culture that all but ensured such information would be omittted.)
edited to add: My choice was "Do as I say." |
"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
| Edited by - H. Humbert on 11/30/2004 17:56:12 |
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Stargirl
Skeptic Friend
USA
94 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2004 : 17:43:05 [Permalink]
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I chose Nightmare because I keep thinking about what Porter Goss said when he was first appointed. I don't remember his exact words but it was along the line that under his watch the CIA would protect the president. I always thought that it was the Secret Service's job to protect the president and that the CIA's job was to gather foreign intelligence to protect the country. Judging from the people who are leaving or being forced out it seems the CIA's new job will be to provide ideological-political support for his foreign policy decisions.
I'm not so certain about the enforcement part only because this would be more along the lines of what the FBI does and I wouldn't be surprised if there is a shake-up there soon as well.
The whole Bush administration has an eerie resemblance to a 1960's TV movie of the week called Shadow on the Land. It's about a president who turns his administration into a fascist regime, creates a national police force ala homeland security, and does away with civil liberties along the lines of the Patriot Act. All this is done in the name of security to thwart terrorism. The only difference is that the war on terrorism in the movie is against domestic terrorism. Unfortunately the movie is not on video because it is very relevant to what is happening now,
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If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him - Voltaire |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
2322 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2004 : 06:15:38 [Permalink]
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I voted "But Where's Bin Laden?"
I don't know who Porter Gross is (I think), but I know the little I've gathered from the international media and the casual CNN watching. The situation, in my humble opinion, fits that option perfectly. The president decided to wage war, now the rest have to shake their buttocks to justify his decision. The failure to provide evidence for Iraq and to actually capture Bin Laden is seen not as a reason to admit error, but a justification to go on and on with the insanity. That's twisted, but that's pretty much how I interpret it. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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