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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 12/09/2004 :  09:51:55  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
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Black Eye # 10,000 for the Admin.

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filthy
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Posted - 12/09/2004 :  11:43:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
As is well known, the CIA has a long and sordid history of being less than honest with anybody, let alone the public. With the current shake-up, I rather doubt that the organization will improve; quite the contrary.

And so our intellegence (hah! ) will deteriorate further as they work solely to please polititions even less honest than they.


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filthy
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Posted - 12/09/2004 :  12:09:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
On a somewhat related note: Caligula's Horse


quote:
All hail to Caligula's horse

Bush's new head of homeland security is perfect for the job

Sidney Blumenthal
Thursday December 9, 2004
The Guardian

In the legend of the war on terrorism, Bernard Kerik, with his trademark shaven head, bristling moustache and black belt in karate, occupies a special place as rough and ready hero. Having risen from military policeman to narcotics detective to New York City police commissioner, he finds himself on 9/11 shoulder to shoulder with Mayor Rudy Giuliani. As the towers crumble the mayor confides in his buddy: "Bernie, thank God George Bush is president."
After the invasion of Iraq, Bush assigns Kerik to train the new Iraqi security forces. Mission accomplished, he returns to Giuliani Partners and becomes motivational speaker to captains of industry, his net worth skyrocketing. One of his most notable aphorisms: "Political criticism is our enemies' best friend." Kerik, the decorated detective, leads an investigation into the safety of cheaper Canadian prescription drugs and accompanies Giuliani before the Senate subcommittee on investigations where he testifies on their danger. (Kerik and Giuliani are rewarded handsomely by their client, the US pharmaceutical drug lobby.)


For those who don't know, the Emperior Caligula, as nasty a piece of work as ever took high office, made his horse a Roman senator.


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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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ktesibios
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Posted - 12/10/2004 :  21:42:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ktesibios a Private Message
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Originally posted by filthy
For those who don't know, the Emperior Caligula, as nasty a piece of work as ever took high office, made his horse a Roman senator.




Umm, you mean consul, not senator. Anyway, it's an apocryphal story, resting on the fact that Roman historians tended to be more interested in telling a good story and making a moral point than in rigorous fact-checking.

quote:

This tale of the mad Caligula's affection for his horse Incitatus has a long pedigree. The Roman historian Suetonius, who according to his Britannica biography “used ‘characteristic anecdote' without exhaustive inquiry into its authenticity,” reported just a generation or two after Caligula's death that “besides a stall of marble, a manger of ivory, purple blankets and a collar of precious stones, he even gave this horse a house. . . . It is also said that he intended to make him Consul.” By the time of the even less cautious historian Dio Cassius, the rumour had become “fact”: “He even promised to appoint [his horse] consul, a promise that he would certainly have carried out if he had lived longer.”



Source: "Caligula's horse." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2004. Encyclopædia Britannica Premium Service.
9 Dec. 2004 <http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9117463>.

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