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Chippewa
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USA
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 Posted - 12/09/2004 : 16:38:34
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Holy Moly! Bush as a "Wise Man" with Tony Blair?! In a Nativity Scene is one thing, but as a Wise Man?
Article has blowup picture.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/08/world/main659901.shtml
I propose a new Nativity Scene in Wax: The Three Stooges as Wise Men, Phil Silvers as Joseph, Buddy Hacket as an Angel, Baby Snooks as Baby Jesus, W.C. Fields as a Shepard, Astronaut Alan Shepard as a himself (a Shepard) and Anna Mae Wong as the Virgin Mary. 
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
2322 Posts |
 Posted - 12/09/2004 : 16:44:04 [Permalink]
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| Bush... a Wise Man. I never thought I'd see those two words in particular, together... mmm. |
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Storm
SFN Regular
USA
708 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 16:59:56 [Permalink]
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Just a symbol of a two thousand year old event. While the divinity of jesus is questionable the historical man is real. While his divinity powers existed or not his physical, psychological, human existed. So this time of year is symbolic of the birth of a great thinker, guru , Martyr,and healer. His teachings have lasted and impacted the world over. He is a man worth remembering and honoring. In another post I wrote about how chritmas for the greeks was a time for the birth of the sun king. the one who will bring back the sun to help the crops grow the earth to warm. It is the last of the Harvest festival for the Nordic. Also the festival of lights I believe the christian Santa Lucia Festival is an old scandavian pagan ritual hense the crown of life the sun
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Shacal
Skeptic Friend
USA
51 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 18:11:09 [Permalink]
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Ok sorry, off topic but...
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While the divinity of jesus is questionable the historical man is real.
This is very debatable. Many serious researchers have concluded that "Jesus" is really a congregation of older myths taken from Pagan traditions. I agree, however, that much of what he taught was great. If only his modern disciples would follow his teachings.  |
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Storm
SFN Regular
USA
708 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 18:15:41 [Permalink]
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Although the Bible may not be exact in certain areas but I believe a lot of it;s history is true. So while many things pagan became christian because of constantine I believe the man Jesus Christ did exist and I think we have as much equal truth. Also while the man may be real the myths assocoated with i.e. festivals are Pagan in nature |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 19:22:26 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Chippewa
Holy Moly! Bush as a "Wise Man" with Tony Blair?! In a Nativity Scene is one thing, but as a Wise Man?
Article has blowup picture.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 21:11:04 [Permalink]
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quote:
While the divinity of jesus is questionable the historical man is real.
Storm, are we going to have to start a list of unsupported assertions for you?
If you have some evidence to support this claim, lets see it.
This IS a skeptics forum, and you've been given a pretty amazing ammount of slack in the evidence department so far. I, for one, would like to see you start to support your assertions with some hard evidence, as opposed to the anecdotes you mostly have used to date.
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
1613 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2004 : 04:39:18 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Storm
While the divinity of jesus is questionable the historical man is real. While his divinity powers existed or not his physical, psychological, human existed.
We've had long discussions on this subject.
See..
Did Jesus Really Exist? (Part 5) which links to part 1-4.
700+ posts to read. Lots of links, information and opinions.
Enjoy!
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Wendy
SFN Regular
USA
614 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2004 : 07:16:06 [Permalink]
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Oh, this is CLASSIC! David Beckham is Joseph and Posh is Mary! You've made my day. 
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furshur
SFN Regular
USA
1536 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2004 : 12:15:02 [Permalink]
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quote:
Storm said:
Although the Bible may not be exact in certain areas but I believe a lot of it;s history is true.
That is nice that you believe [it is true].
What parts are true history?
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Doomar
SFN Regular
USA
714 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2004 : 16:11:04 [Permalink]
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"If only his modern disciples would follow his teachings."
A good point. Why not be the one? |
Mark 10:27 (NKJV) 27But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”
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Shacal
Skeptic Friend
USA
51 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2004 : 16:37:25 [Permalink]
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quote:
"If only his modern disciples would follow his teachings."
A good point. Why not be the one?
[still off topic] I did not mean to imply here that I was one of his modern disciples. My point was that many who claim to be do not follow what he said (assuming he existed). In fact, I know a good many non-believers who follow what he (and many secular leaders and visionaries) said better than the true believer. [/still off topic]
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Dave W.
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