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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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 Posted - 12/12/2004 : 22:10:09
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This is a website that basically is geared up to witness specifically to people contemplating suicide.
To me, that seems like they're looking to provide an "emotional hook" to people, to get them hooked into religion and keep them there.
After all, if jesus is the reason you don't kill yourself, then how likely is it you'd change your mind later?
Don't get me wrong. I'm all FOR preventing suicide; but how pure are the motives of those who set up that site, do you think?
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
 Posted - 12/12/2004 : 22:18:00 [Permalink]
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Religion is always offered as a salve to emotionally distraught people, whether they be suicidal, drug addicts, victims of abuse, death row convicts, whatever.
I can see both sides. On the one hand, maybe faith could offer some amount of comfort or hope. On the other, like you said, it could be considered hooking people when they are thinking least clearly.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
2322 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2004 : 06:00:43 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by the_ignored
Don't get me wrong. I'm all FOR preventing suicide; but how pure are the motives of those who set up that site, do you think?
I don't know. I guess it depends on the person.
For instance, I'm handicapped, I've been in a wheelchair since forever. Recently, my mother was converted. Well, she took me to church, as all good mothers would. I'm 100% convinced the preachers and other faithful people that were near me were sincere when they prayed for my sake. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2004 : 06:24:08 [Permalink]
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Most of these people are very sincere, and to answer the false hope question, yes, it is better to have no hope than false hope.
There is no reason to think that false hope cures any ills, just as there is no reason to think that god stops suicide. |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter
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Renae
SFN Regular
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Posted - 12/13/2004 : 06:44:26 [Permalink]
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I can't remember where I read this, but I read that many people who join cults recently had a serious emotional trauma (ie rape, breakup, divorce, death in the family, etc.) In other words, they are vulnerable.
How pure are the site owner's motives? If their intent is simply to convert someone to Jesus, then I find the site disgusting and self-interested. If their intent is to prevent a suicide out of compassion for their fellow man, then it's OK with me.
Call me cynical but the last thing I'd want to hear if I were suicidal is Biblical babble.  |
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