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astropin
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 Posted - 12/17/2004 : 19:11:58 [Permalink]
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Evolution does not have a goal because evolution can not think...it's not intelligent. This much we do know. There may in fact be some other intelligent life forms out there....somewhere....maybe. But without FTL (faster than light) travel the odds of EVER meeting them drops to about nil
Actually, my theory is, at this point evolution really no longer applies to us. We will evolve ourselves faster than nature ever dreamed. We have taken natural selection out of the equation, and technology will take over at an ever increasing pace. Get ready for some big changes or the next century.
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I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.
Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/18/2004 : 17:38:22 [Permalink]
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In thirty seven years not one? Excuse me but how bioring?
Boring for you maybe. In my 35 years here on earth I have also never experinced anything that I would attribute to paranormal causes. However, I don't find life, or the world, to be boring at all.
As Dave_W said, it's actually sad that so many people ignore the amazing wonder that is our natural world in favor of their fantasy of choice (gods/ufo's/psi/ghosts/ect...)
And why is it you still refuse to utilize even a small ammount of grammar (some punctuation please!) in your posts?
Do you fail to realize that communication between the credulous (you) and skeptics (us) is already difficult? If you can't be bothered to use the tools available (punctuation/grammar) that expidite written communication.... why should we bother to try and decipher your posts? We already know that we have a communication gap between the credulous and skeptics, and if you fail to use some minimal punctuation you only contribute to it. You're doing yourself no favors by ignoring this.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Storm
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Posted - 12/18/2004 : 19:01:47 [Permalink]
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Hey Dude,
Although my puncuation and grammar are far from perfect. I think you can decipher my posts. Sometimes I like us all here have made grammatical errors. Sometimes when you are in ferver and zeal about a certain subject like all of mine you tend to type fast and grammar goes out the perverbial window screen. So I will work more on my grammar and you stop being such a tight ass to me about it
Hey dude who says all that stuff ghost, ufo's, psi, is not natural or normal. I think that it is sad that some do not think that way
So dude how do you define paranormal?
Not one experience....
You should get out more... |
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beskeptigal
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Posted - 12/18/2004 : 20:27:12 [Permalink]
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| Isn't 'enquiry' spelled inquiry? Mis-spelling on a web page doesn't give me a lot of confidence in the site. In this case 'enquiry' is used over and over so it isn't just a typo. |
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beskeptigal
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Posted - 12/18/2004 : 20:32:18 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Storm
is anyone an Anomalists out there? Is there a difference between Anomalistic and Skeptic? Check out this website
http://www.skepticalinvestigations.org/home.htm
I just finish reading these articles
Anomalistics - Dogmatism in Science
Click on...
Feedback would be appreciated
This is what I got when I googled Anomalist.
I am confused by your terminology as to what your position is. But I gather you are drawing much different conclusions from your perceptions than scientific evidence justifies. If I think evidence represents something, say ESP, I have to take it one step further and determine how I can verify or refute that hypothesis. You seem to be assigning cause and effect to certain events but the events are much more likely to be coincidences.
And alternative explanations for things like UFOs need to be considered. Just because one doesn't understand how something has occurred, like an object seen in the sky, one cannot conclude it must be an extra-terrestrial object.
The conclusions you seem to be drawing are fairly common logic errors. |
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Dude
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Posted - 12/19/2004 : 23:03:57 [Permalink]
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So I will work more on my grammar and you stop being such a tight ass to me about it
I'm just asking that you attempt to use the occasional comma, period, and paragraph break.
It's not necessary in this type of informal setting to use perfect grammar and spelling. But SOME minimal use of the basics is definitely needed. My spelling is atrocious, and most of the time I don't bother to use the spellchecker this forum so generously offers!
All I'm asking is that you try to refrain from the run-on sentences and dangling prepositions. Those two are major obsticles to meaningfull communication.
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Hey dude who says all that stuff ghost, ufo's, psi, is not natural or normal?
Anyone who uses the word "PARANORMAL" do describe them. That would be you.
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So dude how do you define paranormal?
I don't. The word is a nonsense word. It's really amusing to see how people use that word all the time. They don't even realize that they contradict themselves by claiming they have had a "paranormal experience". If something can be experienced (i.e. observed), then there is nothing "para" about it's normalcy. And, if the observations cannot be duplicated, odds are there was nothing "experienced" in the first place other than overactive imagination.
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Not one experience....
You should get out more...
You should learn to think critically and apply some basic logic to claims and assertions.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Ricky
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 12/20/2004 : 06:30:52 [Permalink]
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| Why = Dumbass, clearly nothing you can do about it at this point. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Storm
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Posted - 12/20/2004 : 08:42:04 [Permalink]
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| Why do you think ricky I have not thought it does not exist at all/ Of course I thought of that. I do not just think and believe things because I am told. I decipher my knowledge through myself my thought patterns. As far as replication, although ghostly phenomenon has not been able to be duplicated in the lab it sure is in the real world. The everyday world of you and I. I do not find the word paranormal not to be normal |
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Siberia
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Posted - 12/20/2004 : 08:58:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Storm
I decipher my knowledge through myself my thought patterns.
But what's true for you might not be true to the rest of the world, much like Cune's Magical Pink Unicorn (blessed be his horn ). |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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Wendy
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Posted - 12/20/2004 : 09:23:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Storm
Why do you think ricky I have not thought it does not exist at all/ Of course I thought of that. I do not just think and believe things because I am told. I decipher my knowledge through myself my thought patterns. As far as replication, although ghostly phenomenon has not been able to be duplicated in the lab it sure is in the real world. The everyday world of you and I. I do not find the word paranormal not to be normal
Storm, are you by any chance related to the President? You have a real gift for talking without saying anything. Gobbledygook. |
Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do on a rainy afternoon.
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Ricky
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Posted - 12/20/2004 : 11:29:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Storm
Why do you think ricky I have not thought it does not exist at all/ Of course I thought of that. I do not just think and believe things because I am told. I decipher my knowledge through myself my thought patterns. As far as replication, although ghostly phenomenon has not been able to be duplicated in the lab it sure is in the real world. The everyday world of you and I. I do not find the word paranormal not to be normal
Then why when we say we haven't seen the paranormal, your automatic response is we need to, "get out more"? And you end by assuming that I see paranormal events just as well as you do. But I don't. In my memory I never have. But you assume that I do. Why?
Before, Storm, I talked about a picture which I said looked just like it was burned. But you said that it very well maybe, but you don't know that it wasn't caused by a ghost. Right here, you deny the probability of a natural explaination.
Apply this to the real world.
Oh, the Sun maybe is a giant ball of mass undergoing nuclear fussion, but it could also be where all the dead souls go, and what we get is their releasing energy.
The light switch might work by allowing electricity to go to a light, but it could also be an inter-dimensional portal which allows energy to come in from other worlds to make light.
The car may run on gas, or maybe the gas is just needed to attract dead horse ghosts to come and pull the car (or something like that..)
In each of these situations, I have done just as you did. I deny the natural explaination and look solely to the supernatural. Do you not see how wrong this is? |
Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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