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txgeas
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 Posted - 01/06/2005 : 11:46:31 [Permalink]
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| has anyone seen a link to the jerry falwell fart video? i have seen it on vhs, but am trying to find a weblink i could download it from. google has been ZERO help. |
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Storm
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Posted - 01/06/2005 : 12:53:43 [Permalink]
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I imagine it is what the Pagans felt like long ago...
Maybe during the burning times..
Maybe when pagan rituals were transformed into Christian Rituals..
Thank You Constantine.....
But Then that is what happens when one society gets absorbed or raped and pillaged to put it bluntly into another...
What I have been trying to say a numerous of times throughout numerous threads is no matter what God you call it the forces... the phenomenon... Exsits..
i.e. Jesus=Mithras=Sun |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/06/2005 : 17:58:58 [Permalink]
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| No, Storm: the phenomenon of "people believe in god(s)" exists, but that doesn't mean that any god exists. There is no "god phenomenon" that anyone has been able to demonstrate, just a "belief in god phenomenon" which is quite abundant. |
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Ricky
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Storm
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Posted - 01/06/2005 : 18:35:50 [Permalink]
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That depends on what you define as God phenomenon Dave? or evidence Ricky? |
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Ricky
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Posted - 01/06/2005 : 19:24:04 [Permalink]
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Storm, please quite playing the language game. Here has basically been our conversations with you for the past few weeks:
Storm: What do you guys think about ghosts?
Us: There isn't any evidence for them.
Storm: How do you define ghosts?
Us: A ghost is.......
Storm: What if a ghost isn't that?
Us: How do you define ghost?
Storm: Go read it in a book.
...or...
Storm: A ghost is "ghost-like"
When we use a word, it is safe to assume we are going off the most used definition of the word unless we specifically say that we aren't. If you need to know how God is defined, check here:
http://dictionary.reference.com/
Or more specifically the one for God and phenomenon.
So god phenomenon is:
A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
or:
A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.
with:
An occurrence, circumstance, or fact that is perceptible by the senses. |
Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov |
| Edited by - Ricky on 01/06/2005 19:24:43 |
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Storm
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Posted - 01/06/2005 : 19:36:06 [Permalink]
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Love the way you put that all together. That is exactly what I am talking about. Ricky I am here to make you think, contemplate, not to spell everything out for you
So the phenomenon is sensed and then we interput it as god we name it that...
Sun=Mithras=Jesus
Strength=Thor |
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Ricky
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Posted - 01/06/2005 : 19:46:46 [Permalink]
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quote:
Ricky I am here to make you think, contemplate, not to spell everything out for you
Quite odd, Storm, because I was trying to spell it all out for you.
quote:
So the phenomenon is sensed and then we interput it as god we name it that...
Sun=Mithras=Jesus
Strength=Thor
If you wish to say that the Sun:
often Sun A star that is the basis of the solar system and that sustains life on Earth, being the source of heat and light. It has a mean distance from Earth of about 150 million kilometers (93 million miles) a diameter of approximately 1,390,000 kilometers (864,000 miles) and a mass about 330,000 times that of Earth.
is the same as Jesus:
A teacher and prophet whose life and teachings form the basis of Christianity. Christians believe Jesus to be Son of God and the Christ.
When using normal definitions, then no, you are wrong. |
Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov |
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Storm
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708 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2005 : 20:08:50 [Permalink]
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Yes Ricky in all normal sense yes you are right...
but as a student of sociology,religion, and psychology you must look beyond the normal meanings. Normal is for the masses.. Man observed these phenomenon called them gods... It just has gotten out of hand with the RR... |
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Ricky
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Storm
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/06/2005 : 21:48:03 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Storm
Yes Ricky in all normal sense yes you are right...
but as a student of sociology,religion, and psychology you must look beyond the normal meanings. Normal is for the masses.. Man observed these phenomenon called them gods...
No, some men observed some phenomenon (lightning, for example) and said it was caused by gods. The phenomena themselves are not the alleged gods, just the effects of gods which are never observed directly.
You're not making people think, Storm. If you want to make me think, present some solid evidence of some phenomenon not being due to some natural process or another. That you think you're making people think, and feel a need to talk about your education, tells the armchair psychologist in me that you're both arrogant and needy. Whether you're lecturing to an SRO crowd, or yapping on a web forum, your arrogance makes you think you've got the ability to open people's minds, and your neediness makes you deny any failure to do so. |
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Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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Storm
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708 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2005 : 21:57:28 [Permalink]
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You are absolutely right Dave I am arrogant and needy but who the fuck isn't.
Don't tell me I have not gotten people to think shit Dave your still replying to my threads
The fuckin armchair psychologist in me says your...
Ah nevermind...
Whatever Dave!!!!!! |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/06/2005 : 22:14:12 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Storm
Don't tell me I have not gotten people to think shit Dave your still replying to my threads
I'm just trying to get you to think, Storm. |
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Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
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Storm
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708 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2005 : 22:19:08 [Permalink]
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I am thinking Dave. I am!!! I think I'll have another drink. Check this cool site out. The pantheon of Gods I worship. Remember I told you guys about Freyja. Oh right that was chat night. Anyway check this out
http://www.crystalinks.com/vikings2.html |
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