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Paulos23
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Posted - 01/25/2005 :  08:43:03  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message
The lastest doomsday prediction on globle warming.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0124-11.htm

Personally I think this is a bit over the top. While I do admit the world is warming up, but still...have we gone that far?

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 01/25/2005 :  09:41:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Yes, I suggest you prepare for the worst, because the Tsunami will look like a pat on the back compared to what will happen to the weather in the next 40 years.

Frankly I feel his 10 years estimate is way too high, personally I feel the point of no return has already passed. Funny though he goes doomsday on the predictions and the wusses out on the fix calling for cutbacks by 2010-2025 WTF is that?

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Wendy
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USA
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Posted - 01/25/2005 :  09:50:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Wendy a Yahoo! Message Send Wendy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

Frankly I feel his 10 years estimate is way too high, personally I feel the point of no return has already passed.

I agree ten years may be too high (though he does add "possibly less"). Still if the report said the point of no return has already passed it would be worthless. People would take the attitude that there is nothing we can do and do, well, nothing.
quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

Funny though he goes doomsday on the predictions and the wusses out on the fix calling for cutbacks by 2010-2025 WTF is that?

Good question. Politics?

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beskeptigal
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USA
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Posted - 01/26/2005 :  02:48:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
There are quite a few scientists who are concerned global warming will trigger an ice age.

Fresh water melts from the ice caps and disturbs the ocean currents. Heat from the tropics stops circulating back toward the poles via the ocean. The caps refreeze but the currents don't automatically recover. The ice reflects heat and the planet cools ...more ice....more heat reflected and so on. At least that's my very minimal understanding of it.

There is one other viewpoint I heard and that is that we are overdue for an ice age based on the historical record. Since we don't know what causes the ice age cycles we can't really say when the next one will begin. But maybe global warming is a good thing because it could prevent the next ice age.

I think the computer models just aren't good enough yet to give us consistent predictions.

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woolytoad
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Posted - 01/26/2005 :  03:12:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send woolytoad a Private Message
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I think the computer models just aren't good enough yet to give us consistent predictions.


Which is also part of the point IMHO. It's really hard to predict these things so its better to not screw things up in the first place.


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