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furshur
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USA
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 Posted - 02/19/2005 : 21:15:33 [Permalink]
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(BTW, Google only gives one hit for "Shit out an SUV"-- a distinction I'm sure SFN is happy to hold
I am not a religious person but all I can say is, "Oh my God!!"
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 02/20/2005 : 16:26:27 [Permalink]
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And it is a philosophy, based upon one thing for which we will not ever have empirical evidence: that there exists an objective reality.
If we don't accept the evidence of our 5 senses as evidence of an independent objective reality, then you end with the only possible conclusion being a solipsistic reality.
I accept the evidence provided by my five senses as strong and overwhelming evidence for objective reality.
The actions and behavior of all rational people are predicated upon the idea that objective reality really exists.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 02/20/2005 : 18:32:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
If we don't accept the evidence of our 5 senses as evidence of an independent objective reality, then you end with the only possible conclusion being a solipsistic reality.
Yeah, that's why I specifically mentioned solipsism.quote:
I accept the evidence provided by my five senses as strong and overwhelming evidence for objective reality.
Right, for all practical purposes. It seems to me that Ricky isn't satisfied with practicality. He's also considering the [ahem] possibility that what we think we know about our objective reality is wrong (in other words, that there is an objective reality, but we don't actually have a firm grasp on it, Matrix-style). But I'm hoping he'll step in and let me know whether I'm on the right track, as far as he's concerned.quote:
The actions and behavior of all rational people are predicated upon the idea that objective reality really exists.
Absolutely. And even more so, since most people would insist that objective reality is precisely that which they can see, hear, touch, taste and smell, even though you can't get a good impression of the speed of light, or electrons or the average bacteria with just the five senses. This is why it's kind of funny when creationists rail against the evils of materialism. Almost all of them are practicing materialists. |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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