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Tokyodreamer
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USA
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 Posted - 10/02/2001 : 12:12:35 [Permalink]
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How else, within Judeo-Christian framework, does the theist explain his God's behavior, or lack thereof, in this case?
Don't forget, there's always the Get-Out-of-Logic-Free card: "We can't understand the mind of God, but we know He loves us!".
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I have no doubt from what I've seen
that I have never wanted more.
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marvin
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 10/02/2001 : 12:25:26 [Permalink]
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“Hawks in the Vatican have been emphasizing the self-defense part of the doctrine to such an extent that the pope's newspaper Osservatore Romano felt there was a risk that there would be an impression that Pope John Paul II had given his approval for US strikes against Afghanistan.
In fact in his main speech on the issue, made on September 22 on his arrival for a visit to Kazakhstan, the pope said: "Difficult questions should be resolved not by the recourse to arms but through peaceful means of negotiation and dialogue.
But the chairman of the Italian bishop's conference and John Paul's vicar for Rome, Cardinal Camillo Ruini, said two days later, "We must not put in doubt the right, I say even the necessity and the right - to combat and neutralize where ever possible, international terrorism and all those, who at whatever level, are its promoters and defenders."
…leading to speculation that the war between the hawks and doves was part of the struggle to decide who would succeed John Paul II.” --- Yahoo News
Cardinal Camillo Ruini could become the next Pope and conscript an army “to combat and neutralize where ever possible, international terrorism and all those, who at whatever level, are its promoters and defenders.”
Wait just a minute, hasn't that been done before? 
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 10/02/2001 : 12:32:23 [Permalink]
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Cardinal Camillo Ruini could become the next Pope and conscript an army “to combat and neutralize where ever possible, international terrorism and all those, who at whatever level, are its promoters and defenders.”
Well.....I don't see that happening any time soon(whew). What are they gonna do fly sorties out of the Vatican Air Force base? It does bother me when religious leaders use language like that.
The kinder, gentler 21st century has been put on hold!!
What's next? At communion you get a wafer with secret mission plans embedded in it? You read the plans then eat the wafer so that it doesn't fall into the wrong hands?
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Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law! |
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marvin
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 10/02/2001 : 12:50:17 [Permalink]
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I heard that Pope John Paul II was a major player in the downfall of the Soviet Union through his spy network {ie the Catholic Church}
The Pope may in fact be a cia spook code named ‘big dove'
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
4607 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2001 : 12:58:30 [Permalink]
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The Pope may in fact be a cia spook code named ‘big dove'
I was thinking "Funny Hat"...
You know, if you think about it and forget the phallic symbolism for a moment, the Pope looks sort of like a missle.
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Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law! |
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James
SFN Regular
USA
754 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2001 : 19:49:06 [Permalink]
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I understand some things that make faith an attractive alternative to the rigors of reality, but this is just ridiculous. I mean, the needle just snapped off my portable cognitive dissonance meter. I have never seen rationalizing on such a scale before.
Don't you have the home version?  Mine is getting really hot nowadays. I'm just glad I have really good ventalation.
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Get some sleep, dude. You need it.
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
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James
SFN Regular
USA
754 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2001 : 21:19:26 [Permalink]
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Thanks, Randy. I know just where to post this that'll really help. 
The way I see it, christians are godless too...they just don't know it yet. |
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