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LyricalReckoner
New Member
USA
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 Posted - 02/26/2005 : 08:40:09
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The Supreme Court hears the case of McCreary County v. ACLU next Wednesday, a case about the Ten Commandments posted in a county courthouse.
While the focus is on the outcome of the case, the real action is elsewhere. In the next few years, President Bush is expected to be able to nominate as many as three new justices of the Supreme Court.
The result could be that Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia move away from the fringe of the court's reasoning, to the center of it. They could become the voice of the court, particularly when it comes to Establishment Clause cases, like the McCreary case.
Take a peek into the future. Here's the link to it:
http://www.misterthorne.org/ESSAYS/as_it_should_be.htm
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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend
USA
446 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2005 : 09:07:04 [Permalink]
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Nice artical, love the end:
quote:
Back when the Constitution was ratified and Kentucky was just a county of Virginia, it was a capital crime to fail to attend church regularly. And in 1789, just two short years after the Constitution was ratified and two years before the Bill of Rights was added, George Washington was charged with violating a state law that required everyone to attend church. The motive for his crime? He was on his way to church.
This goes to show the problem with a state relgion. Both the state and the church start thinking they have power over everything, and when they are proven wrong, purges and inqusitions are not far behind to bring people back to their view. |
You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley |
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
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Posted - 03/02/2005 : 11:58:02 [Permalink]
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| Nothing good will come of this erosion between church and state. Nothing good at all. Not for the people, not for the nation, not for the churches and not for the world. |
-Chaloobi
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Wendy
SFN Regular
USA
614 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2005 : 13:05:14 [Permalink]
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I enjoyed your article, LyricalReckoner. Thank you for posting the link.
I feel I should point out that the suit was filed by not one Kentucky county, but two. The case style is McCreary County, Kentucky, Jimmie Greene as McCreary County Judge Executive, AND Pulaski County, Kentucky, Darrell Beshears as Pulaski County Judge Executive vs. ACLU of Kentucky, et al. Here's a link to the Petition.
I am a resident of Pulaski County, Kentucky. I can drive from my house to McCreary County in about thirty minutes. My response to all of this was to join the ACLU and make the largest donation I could afford.
At this time the empty frame that once held the Ten Commandments is still prominently displayed at the Pulaski County courthouse entrance.
(Edited to add link)
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Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do on a rainy afternoon.
-- Susan Ertz
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| Edited by - Wendy on 03/02/2005 13:14:16 |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2005 : 13:12:11 [Permalink]
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| More crap from the fundies can be read at CNN... |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
3192 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2005 : 14:09:16 [Permalink]
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| Hey if my 'Golden Calf of Justice' can be put right next to every instance of the ten commandments in public im all for it. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2005 : 17:13:36 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Hey if my 'Golden Calf of Justice' can be put right next to every instance of the ten commandments in public im all for it.
As well as the 'Sacred Runes of Quetzacoatl's Obsidian Knife.'
And the 'Trojan Directions of Application.'
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2005 : 18:47:48 [Permalink]
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Of course the fundy's claim in this case that the "ten commandments is the bedrock of US law", we know is pure horse hockey.
If any ten commandments are to be posted in any public place, let it be this one....
http://www.sodabob.com/DeepThoughts/DT_2004_11_10.asp
See "Ten Comm. and American Law and Liberty", about halfway down the page for step-by-step analysis.
I'd say what the founding fathers came up with for this country, in reality -protects us- from some of the demands of the xtian ten commandments. |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2005 : 19:35:49 [Permalink]
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| Excellent link, Randy. A thorough analysis of the ten comandments. Thanks! |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
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"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
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Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
3834 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2005 : 22:16:51 [Permalink]
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I second that Randy. I am so disgusted with the obvious. The ten commands are clearly only religious and not something our laws were based on. Yet the news media says nothing about those first 4 obvious elephants in the room when they quote these fundies who each just echo the last, making the outrageous claim these commands are somehow basic to US foundations.
The only way they are basic is that not enough people objected to putting the stuff in public buildings until recently. |
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
1613 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2005 : 03:25:39 [Permalink]
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If the fundy numbnuts could just adhere to the following:
2 You shall not make for yourself an idol...
Many these law suits comes when they refuse to follow their own holy book, idols and praying in public. Stone them or burn them or what ever their own penalty is....
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"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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