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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 04/13/2005 : 21:04:27
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Eric Rudolph, the man who recently plead guilty to a series of bombings, including the one at the Atlanta Olympics in 1996, has finally offered a motive for his heinous crimes. I was able to guess it before I even read the story. Can you?
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Starman
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Sweden
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Posted - 04/13/2005 : 23:22:24 [Permalink]
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The logic of these people is amazing.
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"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 04/14/2005 : 03:09:35 [Permalink]
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I am waiting to see if Rudolph rolls over on those who helped him along the way, if he hasn't already.
Here in the Tarheel, his beliefs are well known.
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Renae
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Posted - 04/14/2005 : 06:06:34 [Permalink]
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But he's going to heaven anyway, right? Because he believes da Lord is His Savior.
I wonder--seriously--how many fundie nutters secretly, privately, almost kinda agree with him. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/14/2005 : 06:37:39 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Renae
But he's going to heaven anyway, right? Because he believes da Lord is His Savior.
I wonder--seriously--how many fundie nutters secretly, privately, almost kinda agree with him.
A lot of them! They'd send him money, if they thought they could do it without wrecking their public image.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Randy
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Posted - 04/14/2005 : 14:21:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Starman
The logic of these people is amazing.
Yeah, it's scary to me....irrational. They justify all kinds of anti-social behaviors towards their perceived enemies through the twisted writings in bileble (just a-pickin' an'a choosin' whichever scriptures suits their fancy). And then they feel completely justified afterwards as if they're doing gawd's work. What a fucking delusional world they live in. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 04/14/2005 : 15:55:43 [Permalink]
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| Stories like this makes it hard for me to maintain my belief that the death penalty is barbaric. Noone has the right to take a life without that individual's consent. Though I feel that this is a case where the government could make an exception, I realize that once such a precident is set there are more exceptions waiting around the corner. Life sentence without the chance of parole is good enough for me. |
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Starman
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Posted - 04/14/2005 : 23:46:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Stories like this makes it hard for me to maintain my belief that the death penalty is barbaric. Noone has the right to take a life without that individual's consent. Though I feel that this is a case where the government could make an exception, I realize that once such a precident is set there are more exceptions waiting around the corner. Life sentence without the chance of parole is good enough for me.
I don't really follow you here, Dr. Mabuse.
Does an idealistic murderer deserve the death penalty more than an sociopath (If this is the case here, Rudolph might very well be a sociopath.) killing for pleasure? |
"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/15/2005 : 00:10:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Starman
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Stories like this makes it hard for me to maintain my belief that the death penalty is barbaric. Noone has the right to take a life without that individual's consent. Though I feel that this is a case where the government could make an exception, I realize that once such a precident is set there are more exceptions waiting around the corner. Life sentence without the chance of parole is good enough for me.
I don't really follow you here, Dr. Mabuse.
Does an idealistic murderer deserve the death penalty more than an sociopath (If this is the case here, Rudolph might very well be a sociopath.) killing for pleasure?
A sort of mixture of both, I think, and not all that uncommon. Many people use their faith as an excuse when they commit these sorts of acts. Unfortunatly, those sociopaths like Randall Terry, who encourage people like Rudolph, can't be locked up with him.
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I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good.... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism.
-- Randall Terry, quoted in The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana, August 16, 1993
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/15/2005 : 00:41:13 [Permalink]
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Just found this over at Buzzflash: a statment by Rudolph:
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On the Olympic Park bombing, which killed one person and wounded 111:
``For many years I thought long and hard on these issues and then in 1996 I decided to act. In the summer of 1996, the world converged upon Atlanta for the Olympic Games. Under the protection and auspices of the regime in Washington millions of people came to celebrate the ideals of global socialism. Multinational corporations spent billions of dollars, and Washington organized an army of security to protect these best of all games. Even thought (sic) the conception and purpose of the so-called Olympic movement is to promote the values of global socialism, as perfectly expressed in the song ``Imagine'' by John Lennon, which was the theme of the 1996 Games even though the purpose of the Olympics is to promote these despicable ideals, the purpose of the attack on July 27th was to confound, anger and embarrass the Washington government in the eyes of the world for its abominable sanctioning of abortion on demand.''
The whole thing is a chilling read. Marion, IL would be a good place to lock-down this asshole.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2005 : 02:19:30 [Permalink]
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Anyone know what sort of environment he faces within the prison population itself? I mean, you know how even convicted killers abhor, say, pedaphiles, who often need extra security protection during they stay in prison due to the potential for violent retribution.
How do you think Rudolf is perceived by the other inmates? After 911, will he be regarded as simply another terrorist who has killed innocent women and children? Or will they look at him as a force of righteousness, a folk hero who stood up to a corrupt government?
As filthy pointed out, there have already been many people who aided this lunatic while he was a fugitive. Are those people are minority? Or are they representative of something larger and much more sinister?
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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| Edited by - H. Humbert on 04/15/2005 02:21:12 |
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