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BigPapaSmurf
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 Posted - 05/20/2005 : 12:51:49
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From http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7923094/page/2/ E3 report.
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Wright was showing off "Spore," a simulation of evolution, exploration and conquest.
You start as a multicellular organism fighting to stay alive in a primordial soup. I'm not kidding.
Eventually you evolve into a swimming trilobite-type creature and from there into a land animal that over eons gets a bigger brain, discovers fire and starts grunting a primitive language.
Before you know it the game changes from an eat or be eaten to a grander "Civilization"-like setting where your creatures are building cities and bullying the neighbors.
The cool thing with "Spore" is that you affect how your creatures evolve. Those traits you set early in the creatures' evolution manifest themselves in strange ways throughout the game.
Conquer the world and move on to other planets. Then the solar system. Then the galaxy. Then other galaxies. And the great thing is that no matter how many galaxies you conquer, the traits you originally chose in that primordial soup are still in the DNA.
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Ricky
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filthy
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 14:26:15 [Permalink]
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I am not a game player, but that one sounds intriguing.
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Dik-Dik Van Dik
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/21/2005 : 19:07:02 [Permalink]
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| yeah sounds like a fun game. Not the first evolution game though... there was one on the GBA (i think. i played a ROM) called, imaginatively, EVO, which was a platformer where you would start as a fish and you could choose at the end of the level to evolve a horn or evolve a bigger fin or something. Eventually you end up more advanced and powerful creatures as the levels get harder. |
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 05/21/2005 : 19:57:32 [Permalink]
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| I used to like Sim Earth when I was a bit younger...wish I still had it. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 05/21/2005 : 21:30:17 [Permalink]
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The cool thing with "Spore" is that you affect how your creatures evolve. Those traits you set early in the creatures' evolution manifest themselves in strange ways throughout the game.
Hmmmm… Intelligent Design.
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Dik-Dik Van Dik
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/21/2005 : 21:51:14 [Permalink]
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| hmmmm seems more like 'intelligent prodding in the desired direction'. I doubt the gamer will have to design an eye or anything |
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pleco
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Posted - 05/21/2005 : 22:08:07 [Permalink]
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| The key word being that it is a game - not a statement of a possible reality. |
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Dik-Dik Van Dik
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/21/2005 : 22:13:47 [Permalink]
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| well duh |
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 05/22/2005 : 03:50:19 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dik-Dik Van Dik
yeah sounds like a fun game. Not the first evolution game though... there was one on the GBA (i think. i played a ROM) called, imaginatively, EVO, which was a platformer where you would start as a fish and you could choose at the end of the level to evolve a horn or evolve a bigger fin or something. Eventually you end up more advanced and powerful creatures as the levels get harder.
Yeah, there's been some evolution games before, but the major difference is that computing power today have never been this powerful. Computers have evolved too.
Interpreting Moore's Law loosely, computing power doubles every 18 months. And it's been at least 3 or 4 years since I saw the last evolution game for PC, so today the program may be four times as complex as the last time.
The evolution on earth are limited by the natural laws and the number of elements and particles of matter we have to build with. Which is practically endless. In a computer games, what puts a limit to the evolution is the speed of the computer, and the memory availability. And of course the rules set up in the game.
I think game Creatures was actually discussed once on Swedish television some years back. A biology expert was interviewed about the evolutionary aspects of the game. He complained that eventually the creatures will reach a level at which their development stagnates and stopped evolving. The guy wasn't into computers enough to recognise the inherent limits of computer simulations. Today you can play so much more before hitting the wall inherent to the limitations of the game.
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pleco
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Posted - 05/22/2005 : 05:31:40 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dik-Dik Van Dik
well duh
The point I was making was that I doubt these types of software are attempts to inject "intelligent design" ideas into the ideas of the users - they are just games. But maybe I was stating the obvious.  |
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Dik-Dik Van Dik
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/22/2005 : 07:07:54 [Permalink]
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Well i guess we'll have to wait and see how much 'evolution' it has in it and how much its just a game. Lost track of the amount of games that promised total freedom then funneled you down one route or another. Creatures was different as it was more of a life simulation than a normal game. This 'spore' just sounds like a game to me.
Does anyone know if its going to be on the new xbox or playstation? or both? I'm not very clued up on this whole E3 thing |
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Plyss
Skeptic Friend
Netherlands
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Posted - 05/23/2005 : 00:55:27 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
I think game Creatures was actually discussed once on Swedish television some years back. A biology expert was interviewed about the evolutionary aspects of the game. He complained that eventually the creatures will reach a level at which their development stagnates and stopped evolving. The guy wasn't into computers enough to recognise the inherent limits of computer simulations. Today you can play so much more before hitting the wall inherent to the limitations of the game.
Apparantly a freeware version of Creatures is available through the developers website. It requires registration, but i do intend to check it out. |
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