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tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  04:50:05  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
This is hilarious.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/theferrett/519211.html


Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-

filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  05:43:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Oh yeah, it's a doozy! Gave me a chuckle, it did.

At least the turkey didn't claim that Noah crammed all of the dinos aboard the tub. I wonder how he'd respond to this: Flood Geology and misleading, scientific shenannagans?


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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Siberia
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Brazil
2322 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  07:18:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
[laughing too hard] Precious. Just precious.

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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latsot
Skeptic Friend

United Kingdom
70 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  08:33:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit latsot's Homepage  Send latsot a Yahoo! Message Send latsot a Private Message
I do research into extinction. Before I spent years meticulously examining subtle and complex data, formulating hypotheses, testing them etc. maybe I should just have noticed that dinosaur fossils' necks are pointing up to escape the flood waters.

Problem solved.

And while I'm at it, instead of wasting my time writing peer-reviewed scientific papers, perhaps I should have been drawing comics featuring dinosaurs attacking boats.

Actually, now I come to think about it, that sounds pretty awesome.

r
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13477 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  09:05:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latsot

I do research into extinction. Before I spent years meticulously examining subtle and complex data, formulating hypotheses, testing them etc. maybe I should just have noticed that dinosaur fossils' necks are pointing up to escape the flood waters.

Problem solved.

And while I'm at it, instead of wasting my time writing peer-reviewed scientific papers, perhaps I should have been drawing comics featuring dinosaurs attacking boats.

Actually, now I come to think about it, that sounds pretty awesome.

r



I have an idea. How about formatting your papers as tracks. Think of how much more fun it would be to submit for peer-review actual scientific papers as cartoons! Who cares for slogging through all that boring acceptably formatted stuff anyway? You could start a revolution in how science is presented for serious consideration. (Of course, stick figures will not do. Some researchers will have to learn how to draw exciting tracks in order to pull this idea off….)

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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latsot
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United Kingdom
70 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  09:54:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit latsot's Homepage  Send latsot a Yahoo! Message Send latsot a Private Message
quote:
I have an idea. How about formatting your papers as tracks. Think of how much more fun it would be to submit for peer-review actual scientific papers as cartoons! Who cares for slogging through all that boring acceptably formatted stuff anyway? You could start a revolution in how science is presented for serious consideration. (Of course, stick figures will not do. Some researchers will have to learn how to draw exciting tracks in order to pull this idea off….)



You are assuming people have any intention of publishing or reading my papers at the best of times... I assure you this is not the case.

Cheers

r
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  10:15:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Kinda like a graphic novel, but boring!! I think it would be hilarious to release an actual paper like that, it would certainly be read by a few people just for the novelty of it. It would have to be ultra-serious though.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  11:13:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latsot

quote:
I have an idea. How about formatting your papers as tracks. Think of how much more fun it would be to submit for peer-review actual scientific papers as cartoons! Who cares for slogging through all that boring acceptably formatted stuff anyway? You could start a revolution in how science is presented for serious consideration. (Of course, stick figures will not do. Some researchers will have to learn how to draw exciting tracks in order to pull this idea off….)



You are assuming people have any intention of publishing or reading my papers at the best of times... I assure you this is not the case.

Cheers

r

Now why does that feel so familiar....?

And the cheap bastards hate to get off a dollar when they do want to read it!

Kil is right; tracts and cartoons are much more sought after than stogey, old scientific papers and articles, probably because they're a lot easier for the average fundie or other, blithering monomaniac to comprehend. And to the unbeliever, they have a great amusement value.

Yep, that's the path the ink-stained wretch should follow if he/she desires fame if not fortune.

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I do research into extinction. Before I spent years meticulously examining subtle and complex data, formulating hypotheses, testing them etc. maybe I should just have noticed that dinosaur fossils' necks are pointing up to escape the flood waters.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that dinosaurs heads, in fully or near fully articulated skeletons, are often fossilised pointing up due to the tendons in the neck contracting shortly after the time fo death and pulling the head back over the torso. Until reading that, I'd thought that they were praying as the flood waters rose.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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latsot
Skeptic Friend

United Kingdom
70 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  13:46:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit latsot's Homepage  Send latsot a Yahoo! Message Send latsot a Private Message
quote:
I seem to recall reading somewhere that dinosaurs heads, in fully or near fully articulated skeletons, are often fossilised pointing up due to the tendons in the neck contracting shortly after the time fo death and pulling the head back over the torso.



That is correct. Or at least, that is an interpretation that seems to fit some of the evidence. Dinosaur heads are also found in all kinds of other configurations and nobody tries to think of an explanation for those.

It is as dangerous to accept 'just so' stories that appear to be scientific as it is to accept obvious pseudoscience. I've come across both in probably equal measure.

cheers

r
Edited by - latsot on 06/08/2005 13:47:19
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  15:32:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latsot

quote:
I seem to recall reading somewhere that dinosaurs heads, in fully or near fully articulated skeletons, are often fossilised pointing up due to the tendons in the neck contracting shortly after the time fo death and pulling the head back over the torso.



That is correct. Or at least, that is an interpretation that seems to fit some of the evidence. Dinosaur heads are also found in all kinds of other configurations and nobody tries to think of an explanation for those.

It is as dangerous to accept 'just so' stories that appear to be scientific as it is to accept obvious pseudoscience. I've come across both in probably equal measure.

cheers

r

Indeed, and good advice upon on any subject.

Of course, it's not possible to know exactly how long after death the animal was buried. Right away, a few days, or a couple of weeks, perhaps? It might depend upon if it was buried by sediment before or just after rigor set in, pulling the neck, or after rigor wore off, relaxing the corpse.

Just an idle thought, and not something I'd care to defend.








"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  17:29:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
And on the gripping hand, there's this:
quote:
Flying Dinosaurs
CREATION SCIENCE BREAKING NEWS

For years, Creation Scientists have disputed how Noah was able to quickly collect millions of indigenous animals from remote, inaccessible regions of the world for a 40-day ride in his ark. New evidence from an archeological find in China supports the long held Christian belief that Noah's sons rode giant flying dinosaurs to transport duck billed platypuses from Australia, and penguins and polar bears from the Antarctic, to name a few. "Those must have been some mighty big flying dinosaurs," says Pastor Deacon Fred. "Imagine the look on Noah's face when his sons flew in for a landing with a pair of Hippos strapped to the back of one of them things! Glory to God!"

I am awe-striken by the logic and reason behind this remarkable discovery. Contrary to Darwinist blather and the doubtless phonied-up fossils, Microraptor gui was a giant, and a trainable one at that!

Glory be, the truth at last!




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Starman
SFN Regular

Sweden
1613 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2005 :  00:27:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tomk80

This is hilarious.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/theferrett/519211.html
This weirdo has his own web site:
http://www.pinkoski.com/
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Starman
SFN Regular

Sweden
1613 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2005 :  05:23:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
The author, Jim Pinkoski, has noted that he is being trashed by PZ Myers at pharyngula and replied to one of his blog posts.

You cand find his comments on this post:
http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/comments/pinkoski_again/

For Meyers reply:
http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/comments/if_you_doubt_this_is_possible_how_is_it_there_are_pygmies_dwarfs/

Pinkoski has also commented on this reply.
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