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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 06/25/2005 : 14:41:25
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Was thinking of putting this in the Health folder, due to the health implications mentioned in the Science abstract.... but General seems better, since it is not strictly limited to health.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3217961/
I'll link to the actual paper published in Science, but unless you have a subscription you'll only be getting the abstract.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/308/5730/1901
And here is another link with a bit more info.
http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2005/july13/hydrogen-071305.html
Seriously, we need to get the president's head out of the oil industry's ass, and get moving on new sources of power.
Think about it. Oil will be exausted at some point. Current estimates from 20-60 (a few say longer, but are betting on new oil mining technology) years. That's within the lifetime of most of us here.
If we don't have a solid, functional alternative in place before that event happens, can you see anything good happening?
I have to say that I like the idea of an "Apollo Program" approach for new energy. If the US is the country to come up with a functional alternative to oil, we will have taken a huge step in securing our wellbeing and safety for a while to come.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2005 : 16:10:13 [Permalink]
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Please remind me...
How many dollars have the US goverment spent on the war in Iraq, that could have been spent on the development of alternatives to oil? (A matter of National Security my ass...) |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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woolytoad
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 06/25/2005 : 22:00:07 [Permalink]
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This is kinda old news. Scientists have been pushing for more funding in energy research for years and years and years. Not just to find new sources, but how to make current sources more efficient.
Between running out of energy to global warming. We're all screwed. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2005 : 22:18:33 [Permalink]
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How many dollars have the US goverment spent on the war in Iraq, that could have been spent on the development of alternatives to oil? (A matter of National Security my ass...)
No shit Doc.... There are alot of us here who feel the same way, we were just beaten at the election polls by the unthinking red-state masses.
If the US took just half of what we have wasted on this mess in Iraq (half, I think, would be somewhere around 70-100 billion) we could have (as I activate my psychic powers) functional commercial fusion reactors within 10 years, or if my powers of specific prediction are off... certainly sooner than some estimates. (the G8 looks like they are planning on spending only $12B over 20 years, with a goal of commercial fusion by 2050)
To me it seems as if we should be investing alot more money into new energy research. At the moment nobody wants to rock the oil-boat, it seems.
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This is kinda old news. Scientists have been pushing for more funding in energy research for years and years and years. Not just to find new sources, but how to make current sources more efficient.
While we do spend alot of money on energy research, I am of the opinion that we don't spend nearly enough.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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