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the_ignored
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 Posted - 06/28/2005 : 18:49:52
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I know, the title sucks, but "Re-animating clinically dead dogs paving way for human suspended animation" was too damn long.
Anyway, the story is here
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Pittsburgh's Safar Centre for Resuscitation Research has developed a technique in which subject's veins are drained of blood and filled with an ice-cold salt solution.
The animals are considered scientifically dead, as they stop breathing and have no heartbeat or brain activity.
But three hours later, their blood is replaced and the zombie dogs are brought back to life with an electric shock.
Plans to test the technique on humans should be realised within a year, according to the Safar Centre.
However rather than sending people to sleep for years, then bringing them back to life to benefit from medical advances, the boffins would be happy to keep people in this state for just a few hours,
But even this should be enough to save lives such as battlefield casualties and victims of stabbings or gunshot wounds, who have suffered huge blood loss.
They don't reduce the temperature to freezing, which would cause all that cellular damage due to ice crystal formation, and it doesn't look like it'd be good for "coldsleep" as described in space flights in SciFi books, though it's still likely to have some uses.
(provided this is true; the topics underneath this article look weird!)
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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pleco
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Posted - 06/28/2005 : 18:54:59 [Permalink]
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| If this can be done, and a person is clinically dead for a long time, and they come back and do not have a near-death experience, how will that be explained away? |
by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart. |
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 06/28/2005 : 20:41:20 [Permalink]
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Love the picture in the article. The editor/journalist seems to infer that the dogs will come back as in Stephen King's Pet Cemetary.
Do you reckon that for these kinds of procedures, some people will object to them, because the doctors are playing god? Or maybe some people will voluntarily submit to the procedure to get closer to god?! |
METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
It's a small, off-duty czechoslovakian traffic warden! |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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woolytoad
Skeptic Friend
313 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2005 : 02:03:37 [Permalink]
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| So I guess dogs don't go to heaven ... |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 06/29/2005 : 05:53:23 [Permalink]
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I just wonder if the revived dog will still have memories and act as it did when it were alive.
Meanwhile, I prophecise a bumpy ride for that one line of research, in the future-to-come... |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 06/29/2005 : 11:38:44 [Permalink]
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I just wonder if the revived dog will still have memories and act as it did when it were alive.
Meanwhile, I prophecise a bumpy ride for that one line of research, in the future-to-come...
If I recall, the article said that most of the test animals returned to normal function, but some had functional defecits.
Working out the specifics of a human clinical trial will be a rough road, no doubt. The ethics meetings will last longer than the initial trial.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend
USA
446 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2005 : 14:13:39 [Permalink]
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| Funny, I am reminded of Benny the dog from Vanila Sky (which I saw a few days ago). |
You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 07/06/2005 : 01:26:05 [Permalink]
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| They do used extreme hypothermia in some surgeries. There was a case documented on some program where it was used for a woman who had the blood drained from her brain in order to have a dangerous blood vessel condition corrected. There is a lot of work going into severe hypothermia as a protective mechanism after cardiac arrest as well. |
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