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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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 Posted - 07/16/2005 : 01:06:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Baxter
What are we being apologetic about?
Perhaps "sympathetic" is a better word. "I'm sorry to hear about your misfortune" isn't an apology, even though it contains the phrase "I'm sorry." |
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AKM
New Member
Canada
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Posted - 07/17/2005 : 03:54:24 [Permalink]
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Interesting point of views. As far as I'm concerned, if Bush REALLY wanted to eliminate terrorists, he would've committed more troops to Afghanistan, and actually made more of an effort to "smoke them out of their holes". In regard to Iraq, the WMD threat excuse was just that, an excuse. Instead, he was VERY instrumental in turning Iraq into a hotbed of terrorism where there wasn't any before. How many times has anyone heard about terrorist activities in Iraq BEFORE the invasion? NIL to none. To me, Bush's excuse for invading Iraq is parallel to hitler invading Poland, made up excuses to follow an agenda. The agenda in this case was:
1 - Finish what Daddy started
2 - Oil, Oil, Oil
In no particular order.
If what I'm posting sounds like rhetoric, well it is. It's true that it's been said before, doesn't make it any less true or accurate.
I'm looking at this from an outsider point of view, I'm Canadian and call me what you will. Evidence points to NO WMD, or even a coherent program for WDM, therefore, no real reason to invade. If they really wanted to get rid of Hussein, a tactical strike in one way or another would have easily removed him.
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"Leadership is not magnetic personality—that can just as well be a glib tongue. It is not "making friends and influencing people"—that is flattery. Leadership is lifting a person's vision to higher sights, the raising of a person's performance to a higher standard, the building of a personality beyond its normal limitations." Peter F. Drucker
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 07/17/2005 : 09:06:55 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Baxter
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posted by beskeptigal:
An incompetent president that has made the terrorism risks in the world worse.
Do you think that Bush was to blame for the WTC attack?
Do you think Iraq was?
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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GeeMack
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 07/17/2005 : 20:44:47 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Baxter...quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse...
Do you think invading Iraq made it better?
Attacking the enemy may make things worse for now, but it does not mean it is the wrong action to take. Time will tell us, I suppose.
What criteria do you use to determine that the citizens of Iraq are your enemy? And what is it about killing tens of thousands of people who did nothing to you and didn't present a threat that could "not mean it is the wrong action to take?" I would expect to hear such a comment from someone who is woefully uninformed and/or dangerously mentally ill. But this is the wrong thread to elaborate on that part of the issue.
Yes, it is a shame that George W. Bush has so miserably screwed things up, and as a consequence, increased the likelihood of events occurring like these bombings in London. Unfortunately as long as he has the support of the misguided, the unintelligent, the ignorant, the weak, and the insane, this sort of thing is bound to continue. Those of you who were affected by this have our sympathy.
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AKM
New Member
Canada
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Posted - 07/27/2005 : 17:24:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
And then the next guy takes his place. Would just killing Saddam really do all that much?
Yes. Bumping him off, and some key players in his regime would have removed much of the fear and may have put a stop to the atrocities commited by his regime, with, I think, a minimum amount of bloodshed. I would also add anyone with an ounce of rationality and smarts taking his place would think twice about becoming a brutal dictator as Hussein was, lest the same thing happen to him/her. |
"Leadership is not magnetic personality—that can just as well be a glib tongue. It is not "making friends and influencing people"—that is flattery. Leadership is lifting a person's vision to higher sights, the raising of a person's performance to a higher standard, the building of a personality beyond its normal limitations." Peter F. Drucker
"If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires." Abigail Van Buren |
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