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| BigPapaSmurfSFN Die Hard
 
  
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|  Posted - 07/25/2005 :  10:58:02   [Permalink]     
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| http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4708459.stm 
 New article about "Reinforcement", one of the mechinisms of speciation.
 
 
 quote:Now, researchers studying a family of butterflies think they have witnessed a subtle process, which could be forcing a wedge between newly formed species.
 
 
 The team, from Harvard University, US, discovered that closely related species living in the same geographical space displayed unusually distinct wing markings.
 
 These wing colours apparently evolved as a sort of "team strip", allowing butterflies to easily identify the species of a potential mate.
 
 
 
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| "...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
 
 "...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book,  De Morte Peregrini
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|  Posted - 08/13/2005 :  13:19:25   [Permalink]           
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| Just for the records: I never got a reply to my reply (does that even make sense?). However, I was glad to see someone else actually support me (indirectly), so all hope is not lost. |  
| "Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
 - The Kovenant, Via Negativa
 
 "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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| Dr. MabuseSeptic Fiend
 
  
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|  Posted - 08/14/2005 :  05:10:24   [Permalink]       
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| quote:That's good to hear, I was actually wondering whatever happened to the discussion.Originally posted by Siberia
 
 Just for the records: I never got a reply to my reply (does that even make sense?). However, I was glad to see someone else actually support me (indirectly), so all hope is not lost.
 
 
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| Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
 Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
 
 "Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
 
 Support American Troops in Iraq:
 Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
 Collateralmurder.
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|  Posted - 08/14/2005 :  06:34:42   [Permalink]           
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| The guy who 'supported' me backed with the nifty argument (when the creationist guy argued that the Bible was so accurate even though it was written in several timeframes by several people): maybe because the church cherry-picked what to put in it? |  
| "Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
 - The Kovenant, Via Negativa
 
 "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
 -- unknown
 
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| woolytoadSkeptic Friend
 
  
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|  Posted - 08/14/2005 :  07:47:03   [Permalink]     
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| quote:Originally posted by Siberia
 
 The guy who 'supported' me backed with the nifty argument (when the creationist guy argued that the Bible was so accurate even though it was written in several timeframes by several people): maybe because the church cherry-picked what to put in it?
 
 
 
 I'm not sure what you mean by "accurate", but I think what the creationist guy means to say is that the Bible, has remained quite a consistent document over it's life span. That is, there are few changes between one version and another, even if they are separated by many many years. It's even more remarkable when you consider that humans had to write by hand, the first copies.
 
 None of this means anything of course and it neither supports nor contradicts either side of the argument.
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|  Posted - 08/14/2005 :  08:20:02   [Permalink]           
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| quote:Originally posted by woolytoad
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by Siberia
 
 The guy who 'supported' me backed with the nifty argument (when the creationist guy argued that the Bible was so accurate even though it was written in several timeframes by several people): maybe because the church cherry-picked what to put in it?
 
 
 
 I'm not sure what you mean by "accurate", but I think what the creationist guy means to say is that the Bible, has remained quite a consistent document over it's life span. That is, there are few changes between one version and another, even if they are separated by many many years. It's even more remarkable when you consider that humans had to write by hand, the first copies.
 
 None of this means anything of course and it neither supports nor contradicts either side of the argument.
 
 
 No, he meant consistent with real world events. Such as, accurate descriptions of locations, historical facts, the world in general.
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| "Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
 - The Kovenant, Via Negativa
 
 "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
 -- unknown
 
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