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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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 Posted - 07/19/2005 : 17:54:26 [Permalink]
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Sheesh, the more I read, the worse it gets. From one of the studies in Matt's Google Scholar link,It's interesting to note that among the population identified as "learning disabled" we find that 80% or more fall into the homolateral category. Living in a homolateral state leads to frustration and the need for extreme effort, often resulting in “acting-out" behaviours. Academic achievement is very difficult. Brain Gym® movements help repattern both brain hemispheres to work simultaneously and cooperatively, creating the smooth neural functioning that leads to emotional ease - and academic effectiveness. It seems as though they are mistaking correlation for causation, a fatal mistake.
One thing, though, that I forgot completely about: one of my kid's "problems" is that he tends to get pretty aggressive when angry or frustrated. The Brain Gym thing was brought up because - allegedly - it should help keep him from lashing out. Although I must say that he's been really good about that, lately, anyway. He hasn't gotten in trouble for hitting anyone in months, except that time he was playing around and whacked me right in the groin a couple weeks ago. Ouch.
Anyway, talking with my wife, we're going to give Friday's meet-and-greet a pass, thanks to the info you guys dug up and the points you've made. Plus, my wife just informed me that the evaluator she spoke with had just gotten (somehow) involved with Brain Gym, and seemed quite gung-ho about it. So, there may very well be some financial or "you've gotta try this!" motivation behind her suggestion.
Plus, she reminded me that the evaluation service has already agreed to re-test my boy using more-detailed diagnostics, so we'll probably wait and see what those results are before throwing any actual money at this issue - if it's even an issue. The re-test, after all, may say "oh, he's perfectly fine."
As for martial arts, we've got one neighborhood kid who's doing Tae Kwon Do at age 5. He seems to be handling it fine, except he did once start practicing on the other kindergarten kids. My wife wants to do this anyway, as a family thing. Personally, I'd much rather learn Kendo, but what's a good husband to do? Especially when there aren't any Kendo schools nearby, but storefront Tae Kwon Do operations can be found in almost every strip mall in this area.  |
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 07/19/2005 : 21:19:18 [Permalink]
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K, here's some info I got from a friend. From what you've described, it's a small corpus colostum, which affects the 'discussion' between the hemisphere's of the brain. Ignore the quackery and use if for the physical therapy. The therapy itself is indicated. The friend is an evolutionary psychologist, so she's a bit more familiar with the structure of the brain than I. Um, if you think he'd be ok with a sport, then that would be good.
Personally, I put 'Rowan' (my kids screenname on this site) in Tae Kwon Do. It did wonders for strengthening her ankles and forcing her to rotate her hips out properly. She did eventually quit tripping over her own two feet. Also, would he feel more comfortable in some team sport or in a solitary thing. Some TKD instructors offer classes for ones your son's age. Or see if you can get him into a regular physical therapist.
It really depends on your preference.
She also recommends seeing a pediatric nuerologist to get a baseline reading and a second opinion.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 02:52:46 [Permalink]
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While talking about Martial Arts... Tai-Chi focus a lot on one's own balance, and is defensive and peaceful. Ju-Jutsu is more active, and if I'm not mistaken, also trains for a more defensive stance (than Tae-Kwon-Do). In case your kid have trouble holding aggressions in check.
However I have no first hand experience of Tae Kwon Do, and then there's the availability of instructors... |
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 07:18:05 [Permalink]
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| My kids school was Sereff's, GM Sereff is the head of the USTF, his school is outstanding. He always promoted form over sparring, unlike many of the other schools. Many of the instructors he had were also world champions that had previously trained with him. http://www.ustf-itf.com/ (another reason I liked his school - the philosophy is there without the woo-woo factor) |
...no one has ever found a 4.5 billion year old stone artifact (at the right geological stratum) with the words "Made by God."
No Sense of Obligation by Matt Young
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying and vile!"
Mother Night by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
They (Women Marines) don't have a nickname, and they don't need one. They get their basic training in a Marine atmosphere, at a Marine Post. They inherit the traditions of the Marines. They are Marines.
LtGen Thomas Holcomb, USMC
Commandant of the Marine Corps, 1943
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 13:04:12 [Permalink]
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| Presonally, form over function in the martial arts completely baffles me, I see so many folks kicking at air and trying to make exact robotic movements, that would be worthless in a real fight. Whats the point, wouldnt Yoga do just as much? |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 13:58:34 [Permalink]
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I have been taking Tae Kwon Do for 11 years, and have been teaching it for about 5 years.
It largely depends on your master, and especially the ideals that your master holds. For example, my master places attitude and respect over physical ability. I also know some others that don't.
Tae Kwon Do has probably had one of the largest impacts on my life, I couldn't even imagine who I would be without it. But then again, it is all about how much you put into it. I know other students who don't really care too much for it, and therefore haven't gotten much out of it.
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Presonally, form over function in the martial arts completely baffles me, I see so many folks kicking at air and trying to make exact robotic movements, that would be worthless in a real fight. Whats the point, wouldnt Yoga do just as much?
Form builds up coordination as well as control and balance. There are also "real fights," in Tae Kwon Do. That is, you are against another person trying to hit each other, although with pads on. This builds up confidence.
They are far from worthless. Although I can't say I could kick anyone's ass in a fight, I know what to do when a punch is thrown at me.
You have to also keep in mind that a lot of Tae Kwon Do is for display, in other words art. It is easy to confuse the two, but there are moves I know that I would never use in the "real world," simply because as you said, they wouldn't work. They are only taught because Tae Kwon Do is a type of art. Then of course there are others, such as the use of sidekick when someone is charging you, that really do work in "real fights" (personal experience with that one). |
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 15:46:18 [Permalink]
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Ricky said what I was trying to - so much better than I could ever hope.
Sereff promotes the artform and the prinicples of TKD over the fighting. If it weren't for his emphasis on form, my daughter would not have learned to stand properly, let alone to walk without tripping over her own two feet. It was the very fact that GM Sereff was so instent on the art form, I'm not certain that TKD would have done as much for my kid as it did. Yeah, the other kids in her class were afraid of her sidekick. She kept knocking people over. |
...no one has ever found a 4.5 billion year old stone artifact (at the right geological stratum) with the words "Made by God."
No Sense of Obligation by Matt Young
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying and vile!"
Mother Night by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
They (Women Marines) don't have a nickname, and they don't need one. They get their basic training in a Marine atmosphere, at a Marine Post. They inherit the traditions of the Marines. They are Marines.
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Commandant of the Marine Corps, 1943
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woolytoad
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 16:00:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Whats the point, wouldnt Yoga do just as much?
Ricky also forgets to mention that Yoga is really sloooow and will do nothing for you in terms of fitness. A martial art is more likely to keep you fit. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 16:08:12 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by woolytoad
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Whats the point, wouldnt Yoga do just as much?
Ricky also forgets to mention that Yoga is really sloooow and will do nothing for you in terms of fitness. A martial art is more likely to keep you fit.
Well, not entirely true. Yoga is about holding stress positions, which in turn strengthens muscle tone. Ever held out your arms out parallel to ground level? Easy, right? Now, have you ever held your arms out parallel to the ground for 20 minutes? Same concept with Yoga.
Personally, apart from sex, I refuse to engage in any activity that requires one to remove their shoes.
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
2102 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2005 : 16:47:00 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Personally, apart from sex, I refuse to engage in any activity that requires one to remove their shoes.
Sorry, I know some for whom sex does not require the removal of shoes. |
...no one has ever found a 4.5 billion year old stone artifact (at the right geological stratum) with the words "Made by God."
No Sense of Obligation by Matt Young
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying and vile!"
Mother Night by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
They (Women Marines) don't have a nickname, and they don't need one. They get their basic training in a Marine atmosphere, at a Marine Post. They inherit the traditions of the Marines. They are Marines.
LtGen Thomas Holcomb, USMC
Commandant of the Marine Corps, 1943
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 16:53:38 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Trish
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Personally, apart from sex, I refuse to engage in any activity that requires one to remove their shoes.
Sorry, I know some for whom sex does not require the removal of shoes.
Yep. Not required to remove shoes. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2005 : 17:18:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Siberia
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Originally posted by Trish
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Personally, apart from sex, I refuse to engage in any activity that requires one to remove their shoes.
Sorry, I know some for whom sex does not require the removal of shoes.
Yep. Not required to remove shoes.
Good points. Ok, then I retract my exception.
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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2005 : 18:46:18 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
I have been taking Tae Kwon Do for 11 years, and have been teaching it for about 5 years.
All that experience, and you haven't yet learned how to defend yourself from a truck that's rolling over your face?!?
Anywho... I saw the evaluator's report tonight. My boy has a "suspect Denver," in that he has trouble jumping and landing with feet together, he can't "isolate his thumb, even assisted," and apparently the fact that he still holds a crayon like a dagger is a problem.
But, he's going to get further evaluation sometime in the next couple of months, and we're doing more physical stuff with him now. I'll update when we know more.
Thanks again, everyone.
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2005 : 22:21:23 [Permalink]
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I am now just learning how to defend myself while still asleep.
Learned that one in the military :)
I can say that I'd rather have kept the ability to sleep deeply, however. A part of my brain is always monitoring for unexpected sounds and movements.
As a result, I have a hard time actually sleeping in an environment I'm not very familiar with.
Allthough the over-alertness has lessened in the years since I left the military.
And Dave_W, I'm confident that your son will be fine. You, and I'm sure your wife as well, have a fine ear for detecting bullshit.
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