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filthy
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  11:11:01  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
The arrogent, little chancre-scab fallen from the rotting penis of a syphlitic baboon has appointed Moustash Boy to the UN over the objections of the Senate. What-ho and hail democracy, eh?
quote:
WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush sidestepped the Senate and installed embattled nominee John Bolton as ambassador to the United Nations on Monday, ending a five-month impasse with Democrats who accused Bolton of abusing subordinates and twisting intelligence to fit his conservative ideology.

"This post is too important to leave vacant any longer, especially during a war and a vital debate about UN reform," Bush said. He said Bolton had his complete confidence.

Bush put Bolton on the job in a recess appointment - an avenue available to the president when the Congress is in recess. Under the Constitution, a recess appointment during the lawmakers' August break would last until a newly elected Congress takes office in January 2007.

Bolton was to be sworn in later Monday and go immediately to U.N. headquarters in New York to begin work, said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

The article goes on to say that the festering pustule whined about unfair tactics in the Senate, but no one seemed to consider that these were due to, maybe, flaws in the candidate that needed to be investigated. And there are some rumbles around the net that Bolton was Judy Miller's source in the Plame outing. On the surface, this makes him about as qualified for the post as I am, and I ain't!

Ah well, sewage down the pipe, as they say. Now we will be treated to the specticle of someone with the record of a consumate bully and toady sending the world's respect for the US to new and loftier depths.

I think I'm gonna puke.....


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trishran
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USA
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  11:48:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send trishran a Private Message
I just watched Bolton's speech on Court TV, with the sound turned off [so as to protect my brain ;p], and even while he was accepting the appointment, his facial expressions were angry and belligerent. I can only imagine how he will behave on the job.

trish
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Chippewa
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  14:15:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

...Now we will be treated to the specticle of someone with the record of a consumate bully and toady sending the world's respect for the US to new and loftier depths...



Bolton's job at the UN will be to take whatever comes up and twist it to fit Bush's preconcieved agenda.

This is not exactly the same as taking whatever happens in the world and saying: "How do we use this to our best advantage?" (i.e. Looking after your own turf,) an aspect of diplomacy going back to the Greeks and Romans all the way through history up to the US vs. Soviet days at the UN. Bolton is someone appointed to maintain the "war on terror" for political gain rather than fighting to end the war.

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Dude
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  14:56:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Unreal. Lame-duck W is just gonna do what he wants, apparently.

Maybe the Senate will step up, republicans included, and step on him.

I truly despise G.W.


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Siberia
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  15:50:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
Despicable... and predictable.
Bah, humbug.

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 08/01/2005 :  16:03:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude
Maybe the Senate will step up, republicans included, and step on him.
I keep hoping for this as well. You'd think those whores in Congress would eventually resent being vetoed, over-ridden, and over-stepped. It's time for Congress to stop conceding power and protect what's theirs. Where's the checks and balances, for Christ's sake?


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filthy
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Posted - 08/03/2005 :  01:19:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
An interesting posting on Bolton, Bush, and Fear & Loathing & Angst at the UN:
quote:
PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT
[UPDATE: How to Fight, and Defeat, the Enemy.]

In the previous post, I noted that Bush has in fact appointed Bolton to the U.N. In that connection, I read the following article yesterday, and almost wrote about it then. It's worth commenting on briefly. Here are the authors' major arguments against the Bolton recess appointment:

In addition to Bolton's potential involvement in fixing the facts to the policy in the run-up to war, objections to Bolton are as pertinent today as they were when the nomination was announced on March 7. Simply put: The Senate has recoiled at the prospect of sending an abrasive individual with a history of politicizing intelligence to be America's chief diplomat at the United Nations. Of course, Bolton and the United Nations were not a harmonious pairing in the first place. Bolton has questioned the United Nations' existence, disparaged international cooperation and scoffed at paying U.N. dues. But for the most part, principled members of Congress worried that Bolton's lack of credibility, patience and diplomatic experience (not necessarily his anti-U.N. ideology) would make him a liability at the world body.

That lack of credibility and ineffectiveness which made senators so apprehensive to being with—and compelled Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, to call Bolton “the poster child for what someone in the diplomatic corps should not be”—will only be exacerbated should Bolton be sent to New York without congressional approval. In the words of Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., a recess appointment “would weaken not only Mr. Bolton but also the United States.”

Actually, Bolton knew from the beginning that Bush would put his scungy ass in the UN, one way or another. I've read that a couple of months ago, he was trying to have the ambassador's office space doubled. Don't know if he was successful. Me, I'd have halved it to match his wit...


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Kil
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Posted - 08/03/2005 :  08:30:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
Just a thought. Could it be that rather than go through a contentious battle only to loose the confirmation of Bolton, many congressional republicans were counting on Bush's move? They come out smelling like a rose and of course, Bush is a lame duck and doesn't have to face another election. It removes Bolton's confirmation as a possible election issue for many republicans. I am usually not given to conspiracy theories, but in this case, the conspiracy is small and, well, a perfect crime.

I'm not saying that some republicans do not really think Bolton's was the wrong man for the job. But the majority of them have been very supportive of Bush and this would be a way to support the president without having to vote in favor of the nomination after hearings that could turn out to be very embarrassing to them.

Or am I missing the fact that I have a firm grasp of the obvious?

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Dude
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Posted - 08/03/2005 :  10:38:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
Where's the checks and balances, for Christ's sake?



When the same group hold power in both of the legislative bodies AND the presidency.... There is no longer any realistic check/balance between the two branches.


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pleco
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Posted - 08/03/2005 :  11:20:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
Why should he let democracy get in the way of the war?

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filthy
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USA
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Posted - 08/03/2005 :  11:41:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kil

Just a thought. Could it be that rather than go through a contentious battle only to loose the confirmation of Bolton, many congressional republicans were counting on Bush's move? They come out smelling like a rose and of course, Bush is a lame duck and doesn't have to face another election. It removes Bolton's confirmation as a possible election issue for many republicans. I am usually not given to conspiracy theories, but in this case, the conspiracy is small and, well, a perfect crime.

I'm not saying that some republicans do not really think Bolton's was the wrong man for the job. But the majority of them have been very supportive of Bush and this would be a way to support the president without having to vote in favor of the nomination after hearings that could turn out to be very embarrassing to them.

Or am I missing the fact that I have a firm grasp of the obvious?


I guess my paranoia generators need an overhaul. I hadn't thought of that and I should have, but damn, there is just so much to be paranoid of these days that it's getting hard to keep up with it.

But even so, I think that Bolton's appointment was a horrid
marvelous mistake on Bush's part. In a job that calls for an expert diplomat, he has brought forth someone who is merely a tyrant to inferiors and a lickspittle to his superiors, in short: anything but. I further think that Bush and the Republicans will reap nothing but trouble from this blunder. Good on 'em!

I hear talk of Bolton reforming the UN. Guess what -- he will never get it done because reform requires the cooperation of the reformed. I see him getting precious little of that. I think that he will bring contention and nothing else into an organization that badly needs the honest debate that fosters wise agreements.

Maybe Bolton'll do the world a favor and jaywalk walk in front of an NYC cabbie. Maybe Bush'll ride his freakin' velocepede over a freakin' cliff....


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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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beskeptigal
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Posted - 08/12/2005 :  12:34:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

Unreal. Lame-duck W is just gonna do what he wants, apparently.

Maybe the Senate will step up, republicans included, and step on him.

I truly despise G.W.



With his blind followers I doubt being lame matters. Remember this guy claimed a razor thin and possibly stolen win was a "mandate" and earned him "political capital" to spend.

My neighbor and I had a few pre-election discussions so when Bush's ratings on the war finally showed folks are noticing what the rest of us have known all along, I asked her what her current thoughts on Bush were. Her answer? "We haven't been attacked [since 9-11]."

So I responded with something to the effect that an attack in England and in Spain didn't exactly equal no attacks. Her response? "I'm an American, I don't care about those attacks."

It was so disgusting! That's what Bush supporters are rationalizing. So until the nuke goes off in a container ship in New York Harbor, they are going to stay in their fantasy land.

Bush didn't care before the election and he certainly doesn't care now. He is as much in fantasy land as his followers are.
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ktesibios
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USA
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Posted - 08/12/2005 :  13:26:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ktesibios a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

In a job that calls for an expert diplomat, he has brought forth someone who is merely a tyrant to inferiors and a lickspittle to his superiors, in short: anything but.




For some reason that brought a certain former champagne salesman to mind...

"The Republican agenda is to turn the United States into a third-world shithole." -P.Z.Myers
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walt fristoe
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  15:20:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send walt fristoe a Private Message
I always thought being a diplomat required tact. Shows how much I know, huh?

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