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markie
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Canada
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Posted - 08/30/2005 :  10:52:31  Show Profile Send markie a Private Message
A young guy, John Greenewald, has a very busy website (blackvault.com )which is compiling government files on his website, files which he obtained via the Freedom of Information Act.

While browsing, a thought flitted across my mind: a skeptic would hardly go to the lengths John has to get at this kind of info, hmmmm....


John was interviewed a few years ago by Hilly Rose, when John was just 21. I found the listen quite informing as it relates to obtaining documents from the government. Also included is John's description of an Air Force report describing a UFO encounter in Iraq, in 1976. Here's the recording, which is pretty worthwhile persevering through imo:

http://206.130.103.233/Show141.ram

In short: Although the government officially has stated from 1969 to the present that they are no longer interested in and investigating UFOs, the fact is that departments in the government are indeed pursing this. But I suppose the government is entitled to lie to the citizenry if it is the interests of national security, right?

God bless Americans, Aliens, and God help the government.

Mark (back only briefly)

Dry_vby
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Australia
249 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2005 :  20:30:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dry_vby a Private Message
Look, there are UFO's.

Occassionaly something will be spotted that can not be identified by the observer.

That the Goverment would go to the trouble of investigating these sightings should be a part of their agenda.

This in no way is an admission that these objects are in any way extra-terrestrial in origin.

I think that the way people carry on about this stuff is enough of a reason for the government to take a low key approach to this question.

"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."

Bob Dylan
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CourseKnot
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USA
82 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2005 :  19:28:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CourseKnot a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dry_vby

Look, there are UFO's.

Occassionaly something will be spotted that can not be identified by the observer.

That the Goverment would go to the trouble of investigating these sightings should be a part of their agenda.

This in no way is an admission that these objects are in any way extra-terrestrial in origin.

I think that the way people carry on about this stuff is enough of a reason for the government to take a low key approach to this question.



Right On!

Just flying through space with the rest of you...
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markie
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Canada
356 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2005 :  18:38:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send markie a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dry_vby

Look, there are UFO's.

Occassionaly something will be spotted that can not be identified by the observer.

That the Goverment would go to the trouble of investigating these sightings should be a part of their agenda.

This in no way is an admission that these objects are in any way extra-terrestrial in origin.
So there are UFOs, but they aren't extra-terrestrial? What are they then? Specificially, what do *you* think the Air Force planes encountered in 1976 in Iraq? Curious.

quote:
Originally posted by Dry_vby I think that the way people carry on about this stuff is enough of a reason for the government to take a low key approach to this question.
Perhaps. Then again, the US government now seems also to take a very low key approach to things like disaster relief. I mean, the *way* those people of New Orleans carried *on and on* about their troubles...

Mark
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 09/07/2005 :  18:51:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by markie
So there are UFOs, but they aren't extra-terrestrial? What are they then?
If we knew, they would no longer be classified as Unidentified Flying Objects.

He did not say they couldn't be extraterrestrial craft, only that it would be far too premature to assume they are.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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