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the_ignored
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 Posted - 09/25/2005 : 00:49:28
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Yep. Nothing like weasling your religious beliefs into schools, damn the law!
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Another adviser, evangelical literature scholar Leland Ryken of Wheaton College, called the textbook "a triumph of scholarship and a major publishing event."
The colorful $50 book and forthcoming teacher's guide, covering both Old and New Testaments, are planned for semester-long or full-year courses starting next year.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
 Posted - 09/25/2005 : 01:06:46 [Permalink]
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Are they really expecting schools and/or the parents of students to come up with $50 per for this tome? And I'll bet it lands in court before the dust jacket on the first copy gets torn.
Edited to add that this is something of a sad comment on the churchs themselves. They can preach their gosple but are unable to teach it.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 09/25/2005 : 08:33:35 [Permalink]
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Quite frankly, the book sounds rather schizophrenic:quote:
To avoid problems, Bible Literacy's editors accommodated Jewish sensitivities about the New Testament, attributed reports about miracles to the source rather than simply calling them historical facts and generally downplayed scholarly theories — about authorship and dates, for example — that offend conservatives.
To whom is this book marketed towards? If I had a child, I certainly wouldn't want this book used in a Bible or religion class-- I think that questions about authorship and date are key to its understanding. Throw that out and the context of the writing is lost!
As for the pricetag, I'd sat that it's pretty par for the course. Don't math and physics textbooks run upwards of a hundren bucks?!?
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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 09/26/2005 : 08:02:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
As for the pricetag, I'd sat that it's pretty par for the course. Don't math and physics textbooks run upwards of a hundren bucks?!?
The price is right on par from my school days. Of course I could usually return them at the end of the year for a refund, and if I was luckly I could buy a used one. Though I imagine this one would be on the no return list. |
You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2005 : 09:13:55 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Paulos23
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
As for the pricetag, I'd sat that it's pretty par for the course. Don't math and physics textbooks run upwards of a hundren bucks?!?
The price is right on par from my school days. Of course I could usually return them at the end of the year for a refund, and if I was luckly I could buy a used one. Though I imagine this one would be on the no return list.
From the article:quote:
An interfaith group released a new textbook Thursday aimed at teaching public high school students about the Bible while avoiding legal and religious disputes.
In high school?
I didn't spend much time in high school, but I seem to recall being issued books rather than buying them.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend
USA
446 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2005 : 14:09:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
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From the article:quote:
An interfaith group released a new textbook Thursday aimed at teaching public high school students about the Bible while avoiding legal and religious disputes.
In high school?
I didn't spend much time in high school, but I seem to recall being issued books rather than buying them.
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Opps, missed that part. I just assumed it was college where you do buy expencive books. My bad. |
You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 09/26/2005 : 14:41:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
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Originally posted by Paulos23
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
As for the pricetag, I'd sat that it's pretty par for the course. Don't math and physics textbooks run upwards of a hundren bucks?!?
The price is right on par from my school days. Of course I could usually return them at the end of the year for a refund, and if I was luckly I could buy a used one. Though I imagine this one would be on the no return list.
From the article:quote:
An interfaith group released a new textbook Thursday aimed at teaching public high school students about the Bible while avoiding legal and religious disputes.
In high school?
I didn't spend much time in high school, but I seem to recall being issued books rather than buying them.
Right. So the school buys the books for the students. But my guess is that high school-level texts for other subjects are similarly expensive-- or perhaps more so, as major publishers can probably save in bulk costs that this smaller publisher can't do... |
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LizW
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 09/27/2005 : 07:40:06 [Permalink]
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| Actually the article mentioned that this is for an elective course. I don't know about all school systems but in our area high school electives often have materials fees that are charged to the student taking the course. |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
USA
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R.Wreck
SFN Regular
USA
1191 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2005 : 16:40:35 [Permalink]
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| I took a comparative religion class in high school. It was a catholic school though. But we did learn the basics of the major faiths. It did bolster my hunch that they can't all be right, so the odds are that they're all wrong. |
The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley
The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion
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